QF32 388 - emergency landing in SIN after Engine failure

[kpc]

Thanks for the upload....unlike the 380, my PVR failed completely and didn't record it as intended!!

 

[jb747]

Great story, great Qantas advert, surprised the plane was flying around for so long before landing.

There were a great number of things that needed to be resolved, or at least understood, before it was prudent to land. Rushing into a landing would have been a sure recipe for disaster.

Interesting the pilot was in the air force, seems like that is a good training ground for pilots.

RAAF training is probably the best training that money can't buy. It's not the only way to produce decent pilots, but it produces a very consistent product. The worst RAAF pilot is at least good, the best are superb.

The military input is waning though, as airlines decide they don't like the idea of paying for experience and quality, so cadet schemes will be on the rise worldwide (with the exception of the USA, where they seem to have recognised the danger). A 200 hour cadet and a decent pilot are basically opposites.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Great story, and certainly shows why safety is QF's forte.

The only negative, I think, is the captain's final comment at the end of the piece, about the A380 being "indestructible". At some time in the future (and hopefully not an QF), he'll regret making that remark.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Great story, and certainly shows why safety is QF's forte.

The only negative, I think, is the captain's final comment at the end of the piece, about the A380 being "indestructible". At some time in the future (and hopefully not an QF), he'll regret making that remark.

I think you need to read the 'Indestructible' comment in the context of the story and not literally!

 

[FlyboyAl]

I believe I actually heard someone in the article (60 minutes) say that the media had got some of the original reporting wrong.

Surely that can't be true - the media is never wrong - just ask them!

I thought it was a surprisingly balanced, possibly even pro QANTAS :shock: segment.

 

[markis10]

I thought it was a surprisingly balanced, possibly even pro QANTAS :shock: segment.

It was very much a pro-QF segment, as evidenced in the opening shot with Carl walking around the taxiway at SYD, thats not something that can happen without significant lobbying on behalf of an airline in most cases.

 

[NM]

I hope they do a similarly balanced follow-up looking into the post-incident circumstances. The story was very interesting and well presented/reported, but it left me hanging wanting some similar reporting accuracy about the circumstances and reasons behind the groundings, inspections, repairs, return to service etc, especially the differences between airlines operating RR powered A380. But I understand that most 60 minutes viewers are likely far less interested in those aspects and the conent that was presented was very well targetted at a general audiance.

Well done 60 Minutes, Qantas and Captain de Crespigny for bringing us an interesting piece of journalism.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Thanks for the link to the upload. I was at a family function and couldn't watch it last night.

 

[flychrisfly]

Anyone see this? Rolls-Royce takes £56m Qantas engine blast charge

I wonder if that's that for RR and Qantas regarding this incident?? 56 million pounds doesn't sound like enough to me...

 

[Flying Fox]

YouTube - QF32 388 - emergency landing in SIN after Engine failure

Thanks for posting. Awesome story.

Hopefully they will make an air crash investigators episode and/or a film about it all (similar to the gimli glider).

 

[nlagalle]

Thanks for posting. Awesome story.

Hopefully they will make an air crash investigators episode and/or a film about it all (similar to the gimli glider).

You think they would.. First near disaster on an A380. Would be a great watch I think.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Anyone see this? Rolls-Royce takes £56m Qantas engine blast charge

I wonder if that's that for RR and Qantas regarding this incident?? 56 million pounds doesn't sound like enough to me...

That would be against their books (results). an inpairment charge of sorts.

There are provisions and Insurance to cover expected outgoings as a result of their Engine 'incident'

 

[Sprucegoose]

I hope they do a similarly balanced follow-up looking into the post-incident circumstances. The story was very interesting and well presented/reported, but it left me hanging wanting some similar reporting accuracy about the circumstances and reasons behind the groundings, inspections, repairs, return to service etc, especially the differences between airlines operating RR powered A380. But I understand that most 60 minutes viewers are likely far less interested in those aspects and the conent that was presented was very well targetted at a general audiance.

Well done 60 Minutes, Qantas and Captain de Crespigny for bringing us an interesting piece of journalism.

Couldn't agree more. I am not sure how, for example, SQ could have maintained safety standards by flying their Aircraft when QF grounded their fleet until the nature of the issue was identified and corrected.

They would have had pretty much all the collateral evidence literally at their feet!

Well done QANTAS I say, this is what it is all about, how you perform when things do go wrong, and not about the minor inconveniences we all grip about.

It was all put in perspective in that piece of reporting.

 

[flychrisfly]

That would be against their books (results). an inpairment charge of sorts.

There are provisions and Insurance to cover expected outgoings as a result of their Engine 'incident'

Good point!

No doubt their insurance premiums would be going up now...

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Couldn't agree more. I am not sure how, for example, SQ could have maintained safety standards by flying their Aircraft when QF grounded their fleet until the nature of the issue was identified and corrected.

They would have had pretty much all the collateral evidence literally at their feet!

SQ didn't maintain safety standards to the extent they should have. They just did a token grounding for a couple of days to satisfy the punters & stuck their head in the sand & hoped for the best. On this occasion they got away with it.

 

[Nigelinoz]

Qantas revealed in their half year accounts today that they were fully insured for the cost of repairing the aircraft but that it would cost at least $100 million to repair and wouldn't be back in service till the end of the year which is different to what I heard recently which was that it would be back on the line in about 10 weeks time.
Cheers
N'oz

 

[oz_mark]

Qantas revealed in their half year accounts today that they were fully insured for the cost of repairing the aircraft but that it would cost at least $100 million to repair and wouldn't be back in service till the end of the year which is different to what I heard recently which was that it would be back on the line in about 10 weeks time.
Cheers
N'oz

I think someone was being optimistic in it being online!

Actually, I had heard it may be in a state to do some testing in 10 weeks, but that is a bit removed from it being online!

 

[oz_mark]

Flight Global put it at September

The Qantas Airbus A380 aircraft damaged last November during an uncontained Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine failure will return to service this year.

"We'll be in the air by the end of the year with that aircraft," says Qantas CEO Alan Joyce. He cautions, however, that "it could take as long as September until it is fully repaired."

Qantas's damaged A380 to return to service this year

 

[Danger]

Qantas's damaged A380 to return to service this year

A new article today here reaffirms Nancy will fly again at a cost of AUD150 million, borne by insurers and Rolls-Royce.

 

[jb747]

A new article today here reaffirms Nancy will fly again at a cost of AUD150 million, borne by insurers and Rolls-Royce.

I'd have my doubts about the 150 million figure. That seemed to appear from an 'unnamed source in Qantas', and unless your name is Joyce, I very much doubt that that info would be available at all. Same article was hanging around the writing off prospect, on the basis that as QF got a 50% discount on the new price, then writing it off would be a zero sum game. Of course that forgets that even if they did get that level of discount (which I doubt), it would still cost vastly more to replace, and given the slowness of the Airbus line, it wouldn't be delivered until about 2050.