Should obese people pay extra for flying

[The Rok]

You know those "does your carry on bag fit in here?" stands? What about one all passengers walk through to board the plane. If you can't fit - you buy the extra seat!

Hahahaha love it!

But can you imagine all the "that's discrimination" do gooders at the airport screaming blue murder.

 

[The Rok]

And everyone with a BMI under 30 will be _BANNED_ from buying them.

But just watch and wait for all the DYKWIA WP's demand those seats.

 

[chrisb]

But just watch and wait for all the DYKWIA WP's demand those seats.

and then cough when a fat guy sits next to them.

 

[EmilyHoward]

You know those "does your carry on bag fit in here?" stands? What about one all passengers walk through to board the plane. If you can't fit - you buy the extra seat!

Excellent idea trippin!

I do recall that I was in NZ a couple of years ago and we did an activity called 'Black Water Rafting' nothing to do with Black people or Black water but underground rafting so I guess the water was black. However some of the places we had to go thru were quite narrow. When we first entered from the ground it was vertically down a hole on a ladder, quite a squeeze! The guide or leader was quite emphatic at the start. "If you can't get down this hole you ain't coming" he said ...... a couple of people didn't come..........


EH

 

[Must...Fly!]

In all seriousness I think there should be a premium economy size seat in economy with a surcharge.

No better service, no additional perks, same cabin, undivided, just s bigger seat. Make the price reasonable so as to encourage heavy weights to pay!

BA have done that

Although they have called it Premium Economy! (WT+ if someone wants to be picky )

 

[Travelqueen]

I know that many will say " all people have a right to fly etc etc" and with that I do not disagree.... However, when I fly, especially on holidays, I like the excitement that the whole experience of traveling can give you, and if I am in an economy seat ( something I do try to avoid, if I possibly can ) then I must say, that when a person of larger proportions is coming down the aisle towards me.....I do hope that they do not sit next to me. I totally think it is unfair that they sit in their seat and half mine as well !!
Sometimes we are not talking about a quick bus ride, or public place. It can be for a 8 plus hour length of time.
i once had a flight from Honolulu to Sydney, and the lady beside me was half into my seat as well, then when the passenger in front reclined their seat, I was totally trapped........for the entire flight. Im probably sticking my neck out here, but i think if you cannot fit in an economy seat comfortably, and you are sitting next to a stranger, then yes, there should be a way of creating some space, and if this means buying a comfort seat, then so it should be...

 

[chrisb]

I'd love a comfort seat on the way to LHR, but it's not worth $2k to me. Sorry.

 

[The Rok]

Like I said, take a PE seat, scrap all the trimmings, no priority anything, economy points & status credits, but make it affordable!

 

[trippin_the_rift]

Why make it affordable? $2,000 is a lot of gym sessions

 

[The Rok]

Wonder how much a gastric band is?

 

[JohnK]

but many people don't fit into airline seats without inconveniencing others, that is what we are talking about here. I don't appreciate rolls of flat floating under and over the seat rest into my personal space.

Sorry dazz but the title of the thread is "Should obese people pay extra for flying" and most debates seem to imply that if you are obese then you should pay extra. Why? I am considered obese, and I am not proud of it, but I do not inconvenience anyone even going out of my way to give the person next to me more room.

And by the way most of western society is obese so the signs are not good. Perhaps it is time for airlines to stop trying to squeeze more out of aircraft cabins and try to make flying more comfortable for all.

 

[11sjw]

Just out of interest if this was to go ahead would the airlines have us declare our height, weight or BMI when we purchase our ticket and automatically add a comfort seat? Not sure there would be an easy way to get it right other than a visual inspection on check in. Wouldn't you love doing that for a living???

 

[chrisb]

BMI is a shockingly bad measure of size. Ask all of the 'obese' professional body builders about how bad it is.

 

[samh004]

Just out of interest if this was to go ahead would the airlines have us declare our height, weight or BMI when we purchase our ticket and automatically add a comfort seat? Not sure there would be an easy way to get it right other than a visual inspection on check in. Wouldn't you love doing that for a living???

As I said, turn it into a 1-strike rule. The first time you fly, details are recorded about you 'spilling over' into other passengers seats, the next time you fly, well, you don't unless you get that extra seat! However that's easy.

A more provocative idea is that if you don't fit in a seat they offload you/make you buy an extra seat next to you if available. They put this out in the media and get the media onboard, and eventually people will know what to do. It's really not discrimination if you know you don't fit in the seat that everyone else can fit into... and it doesn't matter in places like the US if you're all getting bigger, just shows there's a bigger problem.

 

[chrisb]

Obese people should automatically get priority with having a 'shadow' that keeps free seats next to them empty.

Out with the Platinum shadow, in with the Obese Shadow. After all, Obese NEED the seat, WP's just want the extra space.

 

[Poisson]

Airline seats are getting narrower and pitch is getting smaller, but the average person is taller and heavier than ever before. I think everybody is looking at this from the wrong angle - the airlines are at fault here. It's surely just a matter of time before somebody in LOTFAP starts a class action claiming an infringement of their right to travel in reasonable comfort and with adequate personal space.

 

[pauly7]

BMI is a shockingly bad measure of size. Ask all of the 'obese' professional body builders about how bad it is.

Agreed no one who is serious about health and fitness uses it, it's a good general blunt instrument used in conjunction with other measures.

BFI is what counts!!! Though I can't see pax lining up to be pinched and then charged accordingly

Heading towards 8% here, summer time shirts off!!

 

[chrisb]

BFI is what counts!!! Though I can't see pax lining up to be pinched and then charged accordingly

Pinch test? Pfft, We need full body submersion tests.

 

[Sprucegoose]

BMI is a shockingly bad measure of size. Ask all of the 'obese' professional body builders about how bad it is.

i think at that point there will be other determinants to indicate health levels, I say as I can see an unread 'Mens Heath' on the bedside table.......

 

[JohnK]

As I said, turn it into a 1-strike rule. The first time you fly, details are recorded about you 'spilling over' into other passengers seats, the next time you fly, well, you don't unless you get that extra seat! However that's easy.

He said, she said?