The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[jakeseven7]

And it was worth every penny. We have a crisis at the moment.

I’d argue other countries need it much more than us given we have sovereign production capability but glad we outbid some third world countries and delayed their roll out

 

[Flying mermaid]

I’d argue other countries need it much more than us given we have sovereign production capability but glad we outbid some third world countries and delayed their roll out

PM did list the millions of doses we will be giving to Pacific countries. So I guess it is swings and roundabouts - the vaccine Australians are too picky to want can go to others.

 

[bcworld]

As one of our illustrious NSW members has always been at pains to point out...the additional doses should be distributed on a per capita basis. Vic is already in a mess, who knows unrecognised chains could pop up in Brisbane next week. Or anywhere else for that matter. The idea that one state is assisted to reach the 'living with covid' level before others, and no doubt will open up, and generate more cases to be distributed nationally via essential services to states that are not ready for 'living with covid' is not that appealing.

 

[JB expat]

Some positive news about AZ

AstraZeneca Covid vaccine may be 'so effective Brits could avoid booster jab'

Pascal Soriot, chief executive of the UK pharmaceutical giant, said he is hoping data expected in the autumn could show immunity lasts for years with the jab providing strong “T-cell immunity”

www.mirror.co.uk

Wow - awesome news

 

[Pushka]

Now I nothing of Poland, but a quick look shows shows that their fully vaccinated rate is about 50%. However there number of cases is very low.

So it is very generous of the Polish Government.

I heard it was aligned with an expiry date also. But fantastic.

 

[mviy]

There are more details in the press release: One million doses of Pfizer vaccine from Europe boosting Australian supplies | Prime Minister of Australia

 

[louie-m]

As one of our illustrious NSW members has always been at pains to point out...the additional doses should be distributed on a per capita basis. Vic is already in a mess, who knows unrecognised chains could pop up in Brisbane next week. Or anywhere else for that matter. The idea that one state is assisted to reach the 'living with covid' level before others, and no doubt will open up, and generate more cases to be distributed nationally via essential services to states that are not ready for 'living with covid' is not that appealing.

If there were forest fires burning, would you say that the firefighters should ignore the areas which are currently on fire in favour of those that might possibly catch fire later?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Always a pleasure to read of people of people who understand that getting vaccinated is not just about themselves.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

There are more details in the press release: One million doses of Pfizer vaccine from Europe boosting Australian supplies | Prime Minister of Australia

So purchased at not-for-profit NSW gets about 300,000 more than pro rata allocation but the whole 530,000 doses go to Sydney LGAs of concern, none to regional / rural NSW.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

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So purchased at not-for-profit NSW gets about 300,000 more than pro rata allocation but the whole 530,000 doses go to Sydney LGAs of concern, none to regional / rural NSW.

The NSW Gov can still adjust where its "other" Pfizer goes. And then there is AZ as well.

 

[Batterytraveller]

I’m not going to say it’s a party atmosphere down at the Royal exhibition building but today and yesterday have been beautiful days to be queuing outside in the sunshine and it has been busier than I’ve ever seen it. A lot of people are coming out to take ‘I’m vaccinated’ selfies in exhibition gardens’.

 

[bcworld]

If there were forest fires burning, would you say that the firefighters should ignore the areas which are currently on fire in favour of those that might possibly catch fire later?

I'm not sure about the analogy. There are burning embers all over though and spot fires have already started in some of those areas.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

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The NSW Gov can still adjust where is "other" Pfizer goes. And then there is AZ as well.

If he Pfizer appointments are locked in for literally months, there is no opportunity for adjustment......and NSW authorities won’t take the chance of cancelling appointments like they did for Yr 12 students (but then ultimately reinstated)

 

[lovetravellingoz]

If there were forest fires burning, would you say that the firefighters should ignore the areas which are currently on fire in favour of those that might possibly catch fire later?

We can all make all sorts of fire analogies.

Firstly let me say that I support extra doses going to NSW just now such as with the Polish Pfizer. Though equally there are plenty of AZ doses that are available be used that some are choosing to not be vaccinated with.

But back on the fire analogy, the problem is that Gladys is not actually trying to put the fire out. They are combatting the fires while seeking to fit sprinkler systems (the vaccine) to individual homes so that each fitted home will be protected. Though some homes will still burn down or get singed a little as sprinkler systems do not always work.

The problem is however that as soon as enough of the NSW homes are protected is that the bushfires will then be left free to burn out of control which is then only going to increase the ember attacks blowing into neighbours. Vic and Qld in particular. And that could then suddenly cause multiple fires to open up in those states.

So the abutting states also have to be hard at work installing their sprinkler systems.

So yes fit more sprinklers in NSW just now, but the reality is every state needs to be fitting sprinkler systems as rapidly as they can.




Or in other worlds when NSW opens up at 70 or 80% cases will balloon.
If you say sent every vaccine dose to NSW now and that accelerated NSW getting open again even quicker then that would really expose the other jurisdictions all the more. The borders restrictions will be in place, but incursions will happen. So that is why you need to keep vaccinating everywhere.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Or in other worlds when NSW opens up at 70 or 80% cases will balloon.

But it is inevitable that will happen everywhere, is it not? Unless we agree to live under the umbrella of restrictions forever.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

But it is inevitable that will happen everywhere, is it not?

Yes, but the problem is if one state does it first just because it has a higher vaccination rate and where the other states are not yet at the "living with covid" vaccination rate. And when it does it with massive community spread then the consequences will be worse. The Doherty Model was based on low community spread.

Unless we agree to live under the umbrella of restrictions forever.

So it is not forever , it is until we get nationally a high enough vaccination rate everywhere within Australia. Indeed the extra million Polish does now mean that is now that bit closer.

NSW is likely to open back up before that, and so given that scenario we need to not have too great a time lag where we are relying on Border Restrictions/Lockdowns to keep hospitalisations low elsewhere. This is why we cannot just focus on vaccinating NSW.

 

[louie-m]

Yes, but the problem is if one state does it first just because it has a higher vaccination rate and where the other states are not yet at the "living with covid" vaccination rate.

What, so the whole country has to wait until WA hits 70%/80% (i.e never) until we open up just because they refuse to pull their fingers out?

 

[Must...Fly!]

This is why we cannot just focus on vaccinating NSW.

No one is focusing on that, and I agree we should distribute vaccines as equally as possible but there is a pretty clear need in certain areas of Sydney right now. If it's a very short term bump in numbers then supply to the rest of the states won't be appreciably far behind.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

What, so the whole country has to wait until WA hits 70%/80% (i.e never) until we open up just because they refuse to pull their fingers out?

No.

But it is why you cannot only focus just on NSW.

It will reach a point where enough people will have had the opportunity to have been vaccinated. At present we are no where near that. If say residents of WA do not ever reach 80% because they choose not to be vaccinated then the remainder of country will still open up.

Remember too that NSW is being allocated more "bring forward " Pfizer doses at present. Some of which has also happened in Qld but in a smaller way, and also in Vic as of Friday. So part of the pulling the finger out in NSW has been that extra Pfizer being provide now. Part has also been more now being willing to take AZ, and more AZ is being provided in NSW too. Other states may not want it at present but in Vic at present AZ vaccination rates is controlled by limited supply.


Caveat: Remember too that 80% is not a hard and fast magic number. It will be more the number of hospitalisations, ICU and deaths that will determine what level of restrictions are current.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

No one is focusing on that, and I agree we should distribute vaccines as equally as possible but there is a pretty clear need in certain areas of Sydney right now. If it's a very short term bump in numbers then supply to the rest of the states won't be appreciably far behind.

Yes agree, and it is why I am in favour of NSW getting extra doses at present.