The totally off-topic thread

[whatmeworry]

I am trying to book Aust Open tickets and there is no delivery option that does not include a minimum of $5.50
Cheapest is 5.50 for being texted to your phone
Dearest is reg mail $11.30 and $7 something for just holding it for you to collect.

Ticketek is the jetstar of the entertainment world!

 

[JohnM]

Ticketek is the jetstar of the entertainment world!

I didn't mind paying the Ticketek snail-mail fee for my Bruce Springsteen 2nd PER concert tickets that I managed to get against the odds yesterday .

 

[Rox]

I didn't mind paying the Ticketek snail-mail fee for my Bruce Springsteen 2nd PER concert tickets that I managed to get against the odds yesterday .

I'll pay that ( so to speak)!

 

[Mal]

Here's the old advert.

http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/Studio/QLD/Spring-Hill/?adid=2010257268

 

[cirqueboy]

I do a lot of work with indie & unsigned bands. They can join APRA & get paid money according to how many gigs they play. In radio (community & commericial), the station needs to keep a count of what songs they play so the artist gets paid. And yes, I too have heard of shops & the like getting calls (and in some cases) visits from APRA about the music they are playing in a shop.

I work in live theatre/drama and we pay APRA all the time for royalties. there are two fee levels that are relevant for us.

Anything played in the theatre while the house lights are up ie Pre show, intermission and post show is covered by a yearly fee similar to that being discussed.

When we use something in the actual performance it's defined as being used in a theatrical context. This needs the specific approval of the rights holder before it can be used.

Within the definition of rights holder, it isn't necessarily the composer. Say we use a Mozart piece, we of course do not pay the Mozart estate as he has been dead for more than 75 years. However, we will need to pay the orchestra who recorded the piece, say the London Philharmonic, if that recording was made in the last 30 years.

 

[docjames]

/AFL/

So those involved in the "tanking" get 1yr ban, but a guy who oversees a systematic doping program over a season and a whole club only gets 12 months.

#Hirddidntgetenough


AFL took the "keep it out of the courts" option and its far too lenient IMO.

If you only get 12 months for a doping program, the other clubs may as well do it.

 

[QF WP]

As my brother is in the music industry and we have an iPod connected to our phone system (used to have radio), I'll flick him the link.

Don't think all of ours are 30+ years -apart from the Xmas carols

 

[Shelf]

/AFL/

So those involved in the "tanking" get 1yr ban, but a guy who oversees a systematic doping program over a season and a whole club only gets 12 months.

#Hirddidntgetenough


AFL took the "keep it out of the courts" option and its far too lenient IMO.

If you only get 12 months for a doping program, the other clubs may as well do it.

From my perspective it seems the AFL were incredibly soft.

The announcement of WADA findings should be interesting.

 

[medhead]

Yes APRA is genuine.I did not pay.And no Medhead I am not inconsistent as I want everyone out of my pocket.
Play music over 30 years old.No royalty payments required.That is the law.So not screwing some unfortunate young artist.Perfectly legal.

My comment is about those who've decided to not pay when the law requires them to pay. Not relevant to the situation you mention at all.

It is ironic that the business owners who claim to be honest and pure aren't bothered by some laws.

 

[Pushka]

I can understand the licence being needed for a performance when people are paying to see that performance but in a waiting room where people probably don't even really listen? We don't have any music at work, too many different tastes

 

[cirqueboy]

I can understand the licence being needed for a performance when people are paying to see that performance but in a waiting room where people probably don't even really listen?

I think it does fall into a similar category, maybe not the same category though. What we aim to achieve in Pre show is to set a theme, tone or feeling for the show that is about to be seen. It's at a low level just a bit above background music. The house lights are on, 850 people are talking, making there way to their seats etc.

Is a doctors waiting room much different in general concept?

 

[Shelf]

I can understand the licence being needed for a performance when people are paying to see that performance but in a waiting room where people probably don't even really listen? We don't have any music at work, too many different tastes

I've worked with people who have had 'robust discussions' over the choice of music in the workplace.

 

[Mal]

I can understand the licence being needed for a performance when people are paying to see that performance but in a waiting room where people probably don't even really listen? We don't have any music at work, too many different tastes

OK try silence then. Amazing what a difference background music makes regardless of whether people listen or not.

There is royalty free music available but generally it is horrible. (Most call centre hold music is royalty free for that purpose).

I don't really like the way royalties are collected and see many different viewpoints.

 

[Pushka]

I think it does fall into a similar category, maybe not the same category though. What we aim to achieve in Pre show is to set a theme, tone or feeling for the show that is about to be seen. It's at a low level just a bit above background music. The house lights are on, 850 people are talking, making there way to their seats etc.

Is a doctors waiting room much different in general concept?

I can't see any comparison. I'm going to the doctors because I'm worried about a health condition and maybe feeling ill. I don't want to be there. I don't want to wait. I'd rather be doing something pleasant. The radio, music or tv might well be an unwanted intrusion and I have no choice as to its content. Which I would hope, is a completely different experience when paying to go to a performance of my choice.

I have a kindle and iPhone. I don't need anything else and silence is fine with me.

 

[medhead]

I don't really like the way royalties are collected and see many different viewpoints.

We've had many discussions about this in relation to a professional journal and the question of signing up to the copyright regime. The pragmatic approach is that money is being collected for copying our journal regardless of whether we sign up, so we might as well join. Against that is the firmly open source opinion.

 

[Buzzard]

I just like a level playing field; you know everyone paying their fair share rather than some people subsidizing everyone else because they're an easy target that abides by the rules. I've never downloaded any dodgy copies of any music in my life always happy to pay iTunes. Do I think I should be able to listen to it while I work because I enjoy it and I've paid for it yes. Do I think people come and see me because they might catch a bit of Radiohead in the background no, so are they really adding anything to my business not really.

I play music at my business - the radio. I play it for me (and my staff) Hello. it's a public broadcaster... anybody can listen to it, it's free to listen to. Why should I pay APRA? Didn't the station do that already? It's not as though I'm broadcasting some pirate ship radio. And I'm sure cutomers don't come to listen to the music, they come to do business. And so what if they hear the radio playing? Is it hurting anybody? Maybe I should throw a burqa over the radio Next thing you know APRA will be walking past your house wanting to charge you if the radio can be heard by people walking past because it's considered a public broadcast.
Better tell Mrs Buzzard not to listen to the radio whilst gardening.... you never know who is listening.

 

[erkpod]

OK try silence then. Amazing what a difference background music makes regardless of whether people listen or not.

There is royalty free music available but generally it is horrible. (Most call centre hold music is royalty free for that purpose).

I don't really like the way royalties are collected and see many different viewpoints.

When I was leaving school, I did some shifts at a local community radio station in the early 90s. I had access to my very small personal selection of cassettes & LPs, my co-host's bigger CD collection & whatever people had left laying around the studio.

I did a guest spot on another community station within the last year & to compare access to music was amazing. It was all computerised & it was so much easier to play off CDs & digitially.

Either way, both stations could basically play what they wanted as long as they accounted for it for APRA purposes.

But now, I'm in a different position.

Since 2009, I have been hosting a series of music podcasts. To avoid any potential issues, I don't play every artist known to man but I focus on the indie/unsigned/underground sector. I either play their music with their direct permission or from a PR company or a music distribution company. Online, I'm regarded by a music distribution company to be the same as a US college radio station.

I've mainly focused on the unknown sector but that doesn't mean in many cases that the music is rubbish.

Some well known artists that I have played under agreement with music distro companies include Dave Evans, Tommy Emmanuel, Paul Kelly, Dragon, Willie Nelson & Dolly Parton.

I once got offered the chance to feature Nickelback but I drew the line at that.

 

[jukebox333]

Yes APRA is genuine.I did not pay.And no Medhead I am not inconsistent as I want everyone out of my pocket.
Play music over 30 years old.No royalty payments required.That is the law.So not screwing some unfortunate young artist.Perfectly legal.

Is that verifiable?

That would put the clock back to 1983 - so you could be playing the Beatles, The Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, early Elton John, Springsteen and just about every other FM radio staple.

Or put it another way: I'm thinking there's not a hell of a lot from 1983 onward I'd want to pay to play.... YMMV, of course.

 

[serfty]

/AFL/

So those involved in the "tanking" get 1yr ban, but a guy who oversees a systematic doping program over a season and a whole club only gets 12 months.

#Hirddidntgetenough

AFL took the "keep it out of the courts" option and its far too lenient IMO.

If you only get 12 months for a doping program, the other clubs may as well do it.

It is not over yet, ASADA and WADA need to complete their investigations. (Door not closed on Bomber doping infractions - AFL.com.au)

The penalties were for "bringing the game into disrepute - breaching AFL Rule 1.6."

Nothing directly to do with use of prohibited substances.

The actual charges are noted here: Statement from AFL Chairman Mike Fitzpatrick - AFL.com.au

In other words, Essendon failed with Duty of Care by allowing their players to be injected with "Unknown" substances.

 

[Pukka]

I play music at my business - the radio. I play it for me (and my staff) Hello. it's a public broadcaster... anybody can listen to it, it's free to listen to. Why should I pay APRA? Didn't the station do that already? It's not as though I'm broadcasting some pirate ship radio. And I'm sure cutomers don't come to listen to the music, they come to do business. And so what if they hear the radio playing? Is it hurting anybody? Maybe I should throw a burqa over the radio Next thing you know APRA will be walking past your house wanting to charge you if the radio can be heard by people walking past because it's considered a public broadcast.
Better tell Mrs Buzzard not to listen to the radio whilst gardening.... you never know who is listening.

They've obviously suffered a big drop in earnings due to file sharing so they're going after easy targets. No doubt they will sue some poor bas..... to make a point and scare everyone else. What about the people that attach music to video clips and broadcast it on YouTube now that really is broadcasting but are they going after those no because that's in the too hard basket lets take the easy option and go after any business that has a radio on, because if we sue them they've probably got the funds to pay!!