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For the life of me I cannot understand why some tour companies, or any business for that matter, that requires payment up front has Paypal as the only payment option. I don't need their services that badly. Their loss not mine.

Open plan offices definitely have their downsides. If it won't interfere with your work, a decent pair of headphones and an iPod full of good working music might help..
I cannot concentrate on work and listen to music at the same time. Anyway I sent an email to my manager today about personal phone calls and productivity and an email was circulated around the office shortly after laying down the law of personal phone calls during company time. :-|
 
For the life of me I cannot understand why some tour companies, or any business for that matter, that requires payment up front has Paypal as the only payment option. I don't need their services that badly. Their loss not mine.

For the life of me, I can't understand the downside of using Paypal from a customer's perspective? Apart from (possibly) fx losses.

For a vendor - sure, there are associated fees and risks, but for a customer, I think it's a fantastic tool, and one I use regularly on eBay.

Cheers,
- Febs.
 
I don't mind PayPal, although I am annoyed that at least in Australia they don't accept Amex. But I guess we all can't have it our way.

At least they don't charge processing charges to customers (unless sellers who use PayPal do not pass on processing charges).

I can understand, however, that it is annoying how one must have a PayPal profile before they can complete a purchase with PayPal. A bit annoying especially if you only have one such transaction. Then again, every tracking system online pretty much needs people to register for it as a user - it's a textbook IT procedure in software / DBMS design.

I can't imagine how many usernames and passwords I have for sites which I have used only once or twice....
 
I don't mind PayPal, although I am annoyed that at least in Australia they don't accept Amex. But I guess we all can't have it our way.

I now have a UK Paypal account, and it let me register my AU Amex. Have already made one ebay purchase which it allowed, so will be interesting to try some $AU purchases and see what happens.

Not all Paypal transactions require registration. There are some that let you pay once off.
 
For the life of me, I can't understand the downside of using Paypal from a customer's perspective? Apart from (possibly) fx losses.
I do not want to sign up for a Paypal account for many reasons including not having my personal details and credit card details stored on someone's database. Also I do not need to deal with a middle man. I have an Amex credit card and I have cash....

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I do not want to sign up for a Paypal account for many reasons including not having my personal details and credit card details stored on someone's database.

Personally I'd rather have my CC stored within Paypal's databases, rather than some two-bit operation who probably wouldn't even know if they needed to be PCI-compliant, let alone having decent controls surrounding their storage of credit card data. :)

Fair call on the middle man point though. For me it's not a big deal.

Cheers,
- Febs.
 
I've never been too concerned re Credit Card fraud because as far as I'm aware, as long as I don't do anything really foolish, my CC provider (i.e. my bank) is the party who wears any losses. Sure there could be some inconvenience, but at the end of the day, no $$$ loss to me.

Does this sound correct to others, or is there something I should be concerned about?
 
I've never been too concerned re Credit Card fraud because as far as I'm aware, as long as I don't do anything really foolish, my CC provider (i.e. my bank) is the party who wears any losses.

Fairly correct. A few points - often a CC merchant is the one who wears the losses (unless it's a cash type withdrawal from an ATM). The inconvenience of having a card denied in a foreign city is a concern though, as is the problems of having 'missing' credit limit while the issue is being investigated. Another concern is that if a card is replaced, you need to set up all direct debits on the credit card again, and also the running around (eg stat dec) that you may have to do to advise the bank that you didn't make the transactions.

Most of the above are pretty much mitigated by having another card in the wallet.
 
I've never been too concerned re Credit Card fraud because as far as I'm aware, as long as I don't do anything really foolish, my CC provider (i.e. my bank) is the party who wears any losses. Sure there could be some inconvenience, but at the end of the day, no $$$ loss to me.

Does this sound correct to others, or is there something I should be concerned about?

My dad got stung by a bit of c/c fraud before. Some nut apparently got hold of his card details and charged it for a hotel stay in Sydney. Not his entire limit, but he did have a frustrating time trying to convince the bank that it was not him in Sydney.

Of course, my dad isn't great under stress. In his view, he thought the world was upside-down when he was told that the onus was his in proving that he didn't make the said transaction. Although I don't know how the bank people interacted with him, from his point of view he felt he was being vilified as the criminal, or basically the bank were treating him as if he was trying to weasel out of a "legitimate" transaction when he was really trying to report that his card had been misused and there was no physical way he could have made that transaction.

End result is that he cancelled his card and got a replacement with a lower credit limit. He's not into anything risky so I think he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, so to speak, or someone just decided, 'Hey, here's another card number, let's use this one.' Now he barely uses his credit card for internet purchases. The only one seems to be airfares. A few times he has asked me to make purchases on his behalf using my credit card(s) (apparently my risk to fraud is more "disposable" than his).


Some guy claimed to be a Saudi prince or something. Kind of a knock off of Frank Abagnale's story. He convinced everyone of his "status" and used it to live the high life (even with his "victims") and steal identity documents (e.g. to access bank accounts, credit lines, etc.). They haven't caught him yet, or at least he's in some jurisdiction where he seems to have some protection anyway. Smartest man or dumbest victims? You decide.


There was a rather interesting documentary on ABC tonight about hacking, black hats, identity and c/c theft, etc. etc. :-|
 
Well I have just had a strange CC experience.Stayed at HGI Mankato,MN for a night.Neither my DC or Visa would go through on arrival-was told just to fix it in the morning and was given keys to the room.Used my DC later that night with no problems.Did an internal email on the citibank site enquiring about my Visa status and by the next morning had a reply that all was OK.
Next morning tried to pay but again neither card accepted.The GM was called-I showed him a printout of my citi email and descibed using my DC the night before-result room comped!:shock:
Downside is I now miss out on 5000 HH bonus points as I will only have 4 not 5 stays.:(
 
Not much point worrying about the cricket any more (what cricket? Is there a cricket match being played somewhere?). Maybe the rugby will make better viewing tonight :?:
 
Not much point worrying about the cricket any more (what cricket? Is there a cricket match being played somewhere?). Maybe the rugby will make better viewing tonight :?:

TBH I only watch the Bledisloe Cup now to see James O'Connor play.

As for the cricket, Australia look to be in a very bad spot, but it all rests on how well England can hold it together, and too often they get coughy and forget what they're doing.

As I'm writing this, they're leading by 300, i they can stay in for the rest of the day and lead by closer to 500, they've got a very good chance. IMO.
 
Australia must be ruing the decision not to play a front line spinner.

England now have a 381 a lead and Australia are going to need to bat extremely well to save the match. Can they win? It is possible....
 
I think Australia should just focus on meting out a draw and retaining the urn that way.

I know that every English paper headline (and probably Aussie paper headline) the next day will splash the Aussie team as bas***ds, kinda like the under-arm incident against NZ some considerable years ago....
 
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Well I'm off to bed.

Meanwhile the English lead is getting very close to 500.


Can I just say right now that the Australian cricket team sucks.


The only counter to that is the dismissal of Michael Clarke in the Australian's first innings was pretty poor. But that's it.
 
Can I just say right now that the Australian cricket team sucks.

Lol, you're not an Aussie in London copping the ribbing ;)

I even got it sitting in Warsaw airport last night when an English gentleman sat opposite me and asked whether I was interested in the cricket scores!
 
Ugly aussies deserve all the cr@p they can get.

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Welcome back, sports fans - I bring you greetings from Japan and some horrible flu thing from the plane : hence my non-attendance at Wednesday's Brisbane drinks.
 
Welcome back, sports fans - I bring you greetings from Japan and some horrible flu thing from the plane : hence my non-attendance at Wednesday's Brisbane drinks.

Don't tell me your health has gone to the pigs, if you know what I mean?
 
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