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I was in tears at the memorial in Hiroshima. It really does show the awful capabilities of man upon ourselves.
It has been happening for millenia. It is still happening today. It will never stop. It's a sick world.

I don't believe in taking a life but I would love to cull those who think it's OK to take someones life.
 
I was in tears at the memorial in Hiroshima. It really does show the awful capabilities of man upon ourselves.


I too have visited the memorial at Hiroshima and agree that it is distressing, but: Why not put the information about Japanese atrocities during WWII alongside the Hiroshima memorial. Places like Unit 731 in Harbin China, the various death marches, the POW camps where Allied forces were starved and tortured and so on?

There also needs to be an acknowledgement by the Japanese government and its people that they entered the war with their attack on Pearl Harbour.

The Japanese were not the innocents the Hiroshima (and presumably Nagaski) memorials portray them as.
 
Don't believe all the Hiroshima stuff going around. SMH quoted some anti bomb group who claimed 500,000 people died in the 5 years after the bomb. With 192000 recognised survivors still living, that gives at least 100,000 more people that were in the cities at the time of the bombings.

Also worth mentioning that the radiation dose to those beyond 3km of the blast had less dose than we get living in Australia for a year.

Or that those people between 2.45 and 3 km from the blast had less cancer (statistically significant) than those living beyond 3km.

I see that similar to a recent Rugby Union survey Adelaide doesn't exist.
 
Yes that Hiroshima bomb article in the SMH was cloud cuckoo land.
Death toll in Hiroshima~70000.60% died of burns,30% died of trauma including collapsing buildings,flying objects etc.
Nagasaki 39000 deaths.75% dying of burns,16% trauma.

Contrast that with Okinawa with a civilian population the same size as Hiroshima.149000 died during the battle plus another 70000 Japanese military deaths.

Again saying everything at ground zero would be vaporised.Didn't happen in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
 
And this story about the only person proven to have survived both atomic blasts is interesting.

Tsutomu Yamaguchi witnessed at close hand the nuclear devastation of two Japanese cities, and lived to tell the tale. Now it will be left to others to tell his incredible story after his death this week at 93.


Yamaguchi, the only person officially recognised as a survivor of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, died on Monday of stomach cancer at a hospital in Nagasaki, his family said today.

Not someone I'd have wanted to travel with though.
 
I too have visited the memorial at Hiroshima and agree that it is distressing, but: Why not put the information about Japanese atrocities during WWII alongside the Hiroshima memorial. Places like Unit 731 in Harbin China, the various death marches, the POW camps where Allied forces were starved and tortured and so on?

There also needs to be an acknowledgement by the Japanese government and its people that they entered the war with their attack on Pearl Harbour.

The Japanese were not the innocents the Hiroshima (and presumably Nagaski) memorials portray them as.
I have visited both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and even met a survivor of the atom bomb at the Nagasaki memorial park....I have mixed feelings about the bomb....my grandfather was tortured by the Japanese when they invaded Malaya in WW11, and my father reported that the Japanese soldiers bayoneted pregnant women. I recently visited the Sandakan war memorial where over 2500 British and Australian POWs died bar 6 who escaped...I read about the tourture used by the Japanese soldiers...they would make the POWs eat raw rice, and then they made them drink water which caused the rice to expand in their stomachs, resulting in agonising pain...my father recollects the Japanese soldiers surrendering at the local police station in Malaya after the 2nd bomb as a small boy....they were all glad and relieved the Japanese were taught a lesson, surrendered and WW11 ended! There are always 2 sides to the story....
 
I have visited both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and even met a survivor of the atom bomb at the Nagasaki memorial park....I have mixed feelings about the bomb....my grandfather was tortured by the Japanese when they invaded Malaya in WW11, and my father reported that the Japanese soldiers bayoneted pregnant women. I recently visited the Sandakan war memorial where over 2500 British and Australian POWs died bar 6 who escaped...I read about the tourture used by the Japanese soldiers...they would make the POWs eat raw rice, and then they made them drink water which caused the rice to expand in their stomachs, resulting in agonising pain...my father recollects the Japanese soldiers surrendering at the local police station in Malaya after the 2nd bomb as a small boy....they were all glad and relieved the Japanese were taught a lesson, surrendered and WW11 ended! There are always 2 sides to the story....

In Nanjing there is a memorial to the people who died during the Japanese occupation of the city - a dark, angry, unpleasant place, intent, it seems, on keeping the fires burning. If you're looking for signs of conciliation towards the Japanese, you won't find any there.
 
Anyone have any experience with laughing gas? Broken tooth needs to come out and I cannot handle adrenalin. Apparently you are conscious but afterwards everything feels like a dream?
Yes I had it for 5 operations (4 teeth extractions and a root canal. Nitrous oxide - I swear by it. I was administering to myself by the 3rd op (give me the mask and I'll put myself under). Sound is a little delayed, so dreamlike I can agree would be the feeling
 
Yes I had it for 5 operations (4 teeth extractions and a root canal. Nitrous oxide - I swear by it. I was administering to myself by the 3rd op (give me the mask and I'll put myself under). Sound is a little delayed, so dreamlike I can agree would be the feeling
Sounds encouraging. Hope I get the same feeling with the intravenous injection. This tooth has to come out.
 
I hope the dentist accepted Amex ... Ahh I see you said it was worth it, so must have accepted Amex then.

Postponed this morning's dental appointment due their EFTPOS terminals being down - no cards, no health fund access…no appointment then: "No I don't happen to have $700 cash on me…" :shock:
 
Tooth saved was paid on Qantas Credit Union CC for a point per dollar to QF. That specialist dentist has kids at private school so he has a vacuum cleaner in his pockets until that journey ends.
 
I think I am going senile.

I forgot someone's name at their own event. In my defence I have only met them a few times, but I think I'm losing the little grey cells.
 
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Not happening penegal is my opinion. Let's get CE and others out to dinner at Olive Tree to discuss this and more during the footy finals.
 
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