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And sometimes that's not a bad thing.
In a way you are right.

I think I am better off wearing a jacket sitting in an airconditioned room. It's not wrong. I don't need to have any facts. That's what I think and anyone that argues with that logic is an idiot.
 
...... Way beyond the expertise of the GP's which is why they are happy to hive off to specialists. One of my GP's is like a deer in spotlight. He says I make his days interesting. Hmmm.
Not sure that is a ringing endorsement for your GP :)
A bit like daughter's hip - no one decided to scan and x ray it until after the damage was quite bad and now a long recovery from surgery. Lots of comments and suggestions from drs, even the sports ones, about what it might be.
 
Hmmm. Updating to iOS 9.3.3 and have run into a spot of bother. The update has stalled with multiple error messages.

Plan B in progress.

My 5S cacked it on tuesday when i tried this install. had to go back to itunes and restore. I was on call all day. Without a phone. Nightmare.
 
Not sure that is a ringing endorsement for your GP :)
A bit like daughter's hip - no one decided to scan and x ray it until after the damage was quite bad and now a long recovery from surgery. Lots of comments and suggestions from drs, even the sports ones, about what it might be.

Well, sometimes the GP's terror is a good thing as he does refer on if needed. Just gotta hope the specialist is worth being referred to. Personal endorsements seem to be the best criteria - and they are usually the ones almost impossible to get into.

I have been referred to a Rheumatologist now from personal endorsement. I contacted the clinic and you have to send off the referral to them. IF :o they decided to accept you, there is a 6 month wait! :o :o. So I duly sent off my referral letter just hoping for a December appointment, IF I was accepted. I am not sure whether to be worried or relieved. I was most certainly accepted, and was given an urgent appointment for a month's time.

The GP did say that tests are much more sensitive these days, and things are being detected now that weren't before. Its an interesting question - how far should tests go and do they really mean anything and need to be treated. Like prostate for instance, for older men can they safely live with 'issues' that aren't symptomatic.

Lordy, when did I get so old as to focus on pee issues! Especially men's issues.

I think GP's just don't or dont have the time to see the big picture and put the puzzle together. JohnK - you mentioned ages ago you are only allowed to raise one issue per appointment. So how on earth can they understand the big picture. For me currently the issues are so wide ranging but can actually be caused by one illness. In the past I have done as you have, thinking if I told all of the symptoms I would be asked to take a Bex and have a lie down. But finally now, a+b+c+d=X. But have had to do the leg work myself and get all the blood and other tests together on the same page. And because I dont like to complain, perhaps I was never forceful enough in addressing the issues. There is little followup. One GP said that red blood cells in the urine was because I had exercised too much or had consumed orange juice. Sure, that can create that issue but the sensible thing is to do a check again say 6 weeks later. Nope, no followup and I didnt know or feel it appropriate to ask for it. I dont let that kind of thing lapse anymore.
 
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That lack of follow up seems to be a common thing these days, as is an inability to see that something doesn't seem quite right and I'm not restricting myself to doctors here.
Daughter received an electricity bill way over her usual (as in a jump of over $1500 for the 3 months). She checks her meter and they seem to have added a digit to the meter reading so she rings them up. The woman says, "oh yes, it seems to be wrong" and asks daughter to read meter so that they can generate a new account. Does no one look at it and think that it's out of the ordinary and then follow up to check? Nope - it's the customer's responsibility.
In terms of medical issues, the patient has to take charge and often insist on follow up and treatment they need.
 
That lack of follow up seems to be a common thing these days, as is an inability to see that something doesn't seem quite right and I'm not restricting myself to doctors here.
Daughter received an electricity bill way over her usual (as in a jump of over $1500 for the 3 months). She checks her meter and they seem to have added a digit to the meter reading so she rings them up. The woman says, "oh yes, it seems to be wrong" and asks daughter to read meter so that they can generate a new account. Does no one look at it and think that it's out of the ordinary and then follow up to check? Nope - it's the customer's responsibility.
In terms of medical issues, the patient has to take charge and often insist on follow up and treatment they need.

It used to be called 'red flag' - and these days with computer systems it is so much easier to do. Agree - any system worth its salt should be able to pick up that kind of stuff! It seems everyone pushes accountability back to the individual so that 'the corporate' escapes any responsibility.
 
Visited my GP yesterday and raised 3 separate issues...no problem to sort them all out. We even talked about some of the wine his patients bring him from time to time.

He also bulk bills:)
 
Visited my GP yesterday and raised 3 separate issues...no problem to sort them all out. We even talked about some of the wine his patients bring him from time to time.

He also bulk bills:)

My GP would love it if I only had three issues! :o :p
 
The problem with being the contact person for a university department with "pathology" in the name: I keep getting calls from people either wanting their results, or for someone to interpret their results. I can do neither, but then they always ask me to the number to call :shock:
 
The problem with being the contact person for a university department with "pathology" in the name: I keep getting calls from people either wanting their results, or for someone to interpret their results. I can do neither, but then they always ask me to the number to call :shock:

You really need to lift your game. Maybe there is some pocket money to be had?
 
In a way you are right.

I think I am better off wearing a jacket sitting in an airconditioned room. It's not wrong. I don't need to have any facts. That's what I think and anyone that argues with that logic is an idiot.
I would suggest that they are not an idiot, just that they have a different opinion.
 
I would suggest that they are not an idiot, just that they have a different opinion.
There's a difference between having a different opinion to telling someone their opinion is wrong over and over.

You like champagne. I don't. It's an individual preference. I don't tell you that you are making a mistake by drinking champagne. I don't understand the obsession with wine and champagne but that's a different argument.

Confused?
 
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There's a difference between having a different opinion to telling someone their opinion is wrong over and over.

You like champagne. I don't. It's an individual preference. I don't tell you that you are making a mistake by drinking champagne. I don't understand the obsession with wine and champagne but that's a different argument.

Confused?

Well you can only lead a Horse to water...
 
In SMH tonight there is an article saying there is growing support to collect unpaid HECS from deceased estates and a move to combine household incomes to speed up repayments of HECS loans.
 
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