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In SMH tonight there is an article saying there is growing support to collect unpaid HECS from deceased estates and a move to combine household incomes to speed up repayments of HECS loans.

Considering most of our politicians got free Uni degrees in the 70's and 80's I guess it isn't no skin off their backs. Another example of X,Y,Z and millennials doing the heavy lifting for those who came before them.
 
Considering most of our politicians got free Uni degrees in the 70's and 80's I guess it isn't no skin off their backs. Another example of X,Y,Z and millennials doing the heavy lifting for those who came before them.

You do realise that there is an Age Discrimination Act of 2004.
So older persons have a right to be offended by your remarks.
 
Considering most of our politicians got free Uni degrees in the 70's and 80's I guess it isn't no skin off their backs. Another example of X,Y,Z and millennials doing the heavy lifting for those who came before them.

Keep it up sunshine, the continual bleating about how hard done by X, Y, Z, and millennials are is totally boring.
 
Actually the bigger personal taxpayers are doing the heavy lifting with the highest personal tax rate at 49% and the superannuation tax including surcharge is at 30%. I think that is a cross section of all ages so no one gets special treatment.
 
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Keep it up sunshine, the continual bleating about how hard done by X, Y, Z, and millennials are is totally boring.

Not to mention no study allowances. No baby bonus. Interest rates of 17%. No first home grants. Conscription. Vietnam war impacting on most families. Each generation has its issues.
 
Sorry to hear about your friend but in my experience joint replacements are one of the life-changing wonders of medicine.
Timing is important-not so early you might need a revision but don't leave it so late you are too frail for the op

Worked brilliantly for me, well worth the inconvenience of being stopped at 98% of airport metal detectors - occasionally I get through.
 
Worked brilliantly for me, well worth the inconvenience of being stopped at 98% of airport metal detectors - occasionally I get through.

And it's been great for me as well including not having a painful left hip due to the left leg doing most of the work.Stopping to be wanded at airports is a small price to pay.
 
Not quite. But I was starting to think about how I would fit a trip to an Apple store into my day tomorrow!


Various messages, such as 'Failed to connect', 'Failed to update' and such like. I did a hard restart (pwr+home) and after a few more error messages it started the update again and worked fine.

I think you were very lucky. Wife's 6+ refused to charge its battery (60% charged) and failed to finish backup to the cloud on 3 attempts (so it could be returned for replacement by apple, although (just) out of apple (12 mth) warranty, but still in phone provider plan, and hence warranty by them). Its been away and in transit for 3 weeks now but is promised for Monday.

I'm glad we didn't buy it outright and only get the apple warranty, as I suppose we would have had to go to consumer affairs to persuade apple that a 12 mth warranty does not finish at 12 months, and consumers do have some expectations that an item will continue to work properly, even when it is out of warranty.
 
Good luck with the next round of medical appointments. I don't know why but when one thing goes wrong, it always seems to open a Pandora's box of further problems. Just not playing fair!

I'm not keen to hear that. Have a date with a man with a knife 2 weeks on Monday - keeping fingers crossed.
 
That lack of follow up seems to be a common thing these days, as is an inability to see that something doesn't seem quite right and I'm not restricting myself to doctors here.
Daughter received an electricity bill way over her usual (as in a jump of over $1500 for the 3 months). She checks her meter and they seem to have added a digit to the meter reading so she rings them up. The woman says, "oh yes, it seems to be wrong" and asks daughter to read meter so that they can generate a new account. Does no one look at it and think that it's out of the ordinary and then follow up to check? Nope - it's the customer's responsibility.
In terms of medical issues, the patient has to take charge and often insist on follow up and treatment they need.

Its poor that the patient has to take charge as probably 85% don't know how to, and often information on on some surgeons' experience and capabilities is not readily available through Dr Google anyway.
 
Not to mention no study allowances. No baby bonus. Interest rates of 17%. No first home grants. Conscription. Vietnam war impacting on most families. Each generation has its issues.

Yes, we went through all those and no child day care support. My wife's total wage as a nurse went on child day care and transport to and from that for 2 children. Even though she had no net income she had to continue working just to retain a job.
 
I think you were very lucky. Wife's 6+ refused to charge its battery (60% charged) and failed to finish backup to the cloud on 3 attempts (so it could be returned for replacement by apple, although (just) out of apple (12 mth) warranty, but still in phone provider plan, and hence warranty by them). Its been away and in transit for 3 weeks now but is promised for Monday.

I'm glad we didn't buy it outright and only get the apple warranty, as I suppose we would have had to go to consumer affairs to persuade apple that a 12 mth warranty does not finish at 12 months, and consumers do have some expectations that an item will continue to work properly, even when it is out of warranty.

Apple phones have 24 month warranty
 
I just look at my general bills and as long as they are a similar amount to the last one I just pay them.
 
Apple phones have 24 month warranty


Just going by what the telco said, but either way I wouldn't have expected a major function like battery charging to fail so soon after purchase, and then have the associated fiasco of backup failure.
 
Quite easily and it has nothing to do with power. Like any install, sometimes theres a glitch and they get stuck. Unfortunately that can mean having to plug into iTunes where it does a restore in order to continue. However, I noticed with my most recent update that there seems to be a built-in recovery that takes place. It keeps all your data but seems to reinstall the lot.

To hear 'quite easily' is not very heartening. This is iOS, a Unix based system, not Windows Vista.

Thank goodness there is a "recovery" mechanism in place to actually save the phone from itself.

An update is so far from an atomic activity that it would be idiotic not to build in a failsafe / abort.

One odd thing about Windows 10 1511 is that sometimes when I tried to install it on other computers, it would fail. However, at the very least, the installation / update process recognised the failure and rolled back the computer to its last consistent state. So no panic.

To be honest, software companies - including the more "tech" based ones like Google - are so scared about exposing too much info to users these days that things can go wrong but you'll either see a very generic error message (not even something that a technician or programmer can use to trace back), or sometimes no message at all, or even rarer but still sometimes, a (false) success message! All in all, freaking pointless - what is the big deal with having things go wrong and no useful error message or context to be able to tell someone about the problem?

Apple phones have 24 month warranty

I didn't know that. Before, the only way to get 24 months was to buy Apple Care. Now it's 24 months standard?

I think you were very lucky. Wife's 6+ refused to charge its battery (60% charged) and failed to finish backup to the cloud on 3 attempts (so it could be returned for replacement by apple, although (just) out of apple (12 mth) warranty, but still in phone provider plan, and hence warranty by them). Its been away and in transit for 3 weeks now but is promised for Monday.

I'm glad we didn't buy it outright and only get the apple warranty, as I suppose we would have had to go to consumer affairs to persuade apple that a 12 mth warranty does not finish at 12 months, and consumers do have some expectations that an item will continue to work properly, even when it is out of warranty.

According to the guidelines, consumers have a right to expect that a product will work over its reasonable life time, even if not "covered" by a warranty.

The reasonable lifetime of a smartphone should be at least 2 years, so if it failed in month 13 I'd say you have a good case to get Apple to foot the fix even if there was no warranty to cover it. Getting them to do stuff (or any tech company / reseller for that matter) without getting consumer affairs involved can sometimes be a challenge, though I've heard that Apple have gotten rather shy about all this so sometimes they'll just do what you want them to do without asking for any verification (e.g. broke your screen? No problems - here's a fresh one. No need to say you accidentally stepped on it or drunk dropped it or something).
 
You do realise that there is an Age Discrimination Act of 2004.
So older persons have a right to be offended by your remarks.

Most people of a certain age are also worried their children and grandchildren can't actually get ahead and believe the wealth gap between the elderly and young is too great.

Keep it up sunshine, the continual bleating about how hard done by X, Y, Z, and millennials are is totally boring.

Well Australia has had 20+ years of growth but the primary group that has benefited is baby boomers. However it turns out millennials and older are worried they will have to take care of their parents

The problem is not everyone is rich. There are many Millennials who not only won't get help to buy a property or inherit much, they also expect to support their parents in their old age.
Nearly one in three Millennials are concerned they will have to give up work to look after their parents, or that their retired parents will come to them for money.
This is according to research by REST Super, based on a demographically representative sample of 1006 18 to 34-year-olds across Australia. Despite REST's interest in promoting retirement savings, and the margin of error with the sample size, the broad brush conclusions ring true to me.
I am a little older than their sample and technically part of Generation X, those born from the early 1960s to 1980. When I consider my friends and their parents, I think the findings are true for Gen X as well.

Millennials 'shell out' for their Baby Boomer parents

Oh well just remember be nice to your children.

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My father in law had a heart pacemaker fitted very recently at 93 and he is back out walking and gardening. His new young cardiologist saw hm once and scheduled the fitting of the device about 4 days later. I just hope he doesn't want to get back driving his car.
 
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