TheRealTMA
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Rarely has a truer word been said on AFF!Salt fixes everything.
Rarely has a truer word been said on AFF!Salt fixes everything.
No rice is very very easy using the absorption method. < Snip for space>.
Hubby, who bought me new phone, is hiding in his office, until its safe to come out, ie: my new phone looks just like the old phone.
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aah Banks!! Ms FM wants a loan to do a knock down and rebuild. We would like to give her the money, but right at the moment I have no shares I want to sell..... Either they are producing good dividends, or they are ones that I feel will produce excellent capital gains but are not at that point yet.
so that's easy will help her by cosigning on the loan with her, otherwise she will be up for $30,000 in mortgage insurance. She has enough income to service the loan but wont meet the 80% thing, so we can put up our house as security.
so send a milllion pieces of paper off to the bank including the Super fund's tax return for 2017, showing the quite large amount of money we draw. Also the tax returns for Mr FM and I as we have other taxable income from the business as we are still doing some minor consulting work.
Banks just phoned and said they don't want to take the taxable income into account as it could be non ongoing (fair enough). There is no super pension on the tax return so obviously we aren't drawing any money. Excuse me? Its tax free so it doesn't go on the Tax return - yes it does unless accounting standards have changed???
I have now found the bit at the ATO's site where it explicitly states not to put tax free super pensions and lump sums on the tax return.
Bunch of wallies - don't know if I will get anywhere and of course my accountant is overseas for 3 weeks - typical!! very annoyed and stressed!!
I have got him to look at the super account, which shows payments being made over multiple years to our personal account and oh by the way it is the LAW that we pay ourselves a minimum of 5%!!
I am never ever changing my credit card after this experience! Mr FM has one with a $50,000 limit and I have a $26,000 one. Given today’s conversations with ANZ we would be lucky to get $1,000.Yep, there are lots of muppets working in the banks. Just before Christmas was in the process of churning a cc to get 100k QF points and ran into a problem with substantiating my income. My income is a stream (tax free) from a defined benefit super scheme and also a not inconsiderable amount from a couple of share holding dividends.
First I sent copies of my bank statements showing fortnightly income from my super stream for last 3 months. Not good enough - wanted to know opening and closing balances for my super account and how long it would last and bank statements for 6 months. WTF!
Had difficulty in convincing them that I didn't have an opening and closing balance as such, and that the income was for the term of my life. (I didn't complicate by saying it extended for the term of my spouse's life too.)
Next up, the share divs. Wanted to see evidence of dividend payments - sent copies of dividend payment advice for last year of dividend payments and cross referenced to bank statement. Almost there, but then wanted too know when next payments were due. Ironic really as next div payment due was from their bank.
Finally they thought I wasn't too great a risk to allow me $15000 credit (all I asked for). 100K points showed in my QF a/c about 6 weeks later. Now just have to work on getting my cc annual fee reimbursed, as a shareholder perk.
These CSOs obviously need to be better informed and trained in order to be capable of dealing in a professional manner with retirees, many of whom have as much, if not more, disposable income than when they were working.
Interestingly my credit rating is still 'superb' and has just bounced so it may be time to churn again. "Let's Churn Again Like We Did Last Summer" (apologies) etc. Maybe I should make it a seasonal thing. I know wife needs a new one.
I am never ever changing my credit card after this experience! Mr FM has one with a $50,000 limit and I have a $26,000 one. Given today’s conversations with ANZ we would be lucky to get $1,000.
I managed to convince him that the super fund payments do not need to be on the tax return, but that seems to make everything worse, as apparently we have no regular income that he can prove. I am not sure how the money arrives in our bank accounts (which he can see as we have everything with ANZ) - I guess we must be selling drugs. .
totally agree - I never thought I would have to do this sort of thing again, but we wanted to help out Ms FM and I stupidly thought we had pretty solid finances. . .Likewise, defined benefit pension, some nice dividends and private super, last time I applied for a cc they wanted stuff from my accountant, not interested anymore, don't really care about the sign up points, well ok maybe a little bit, but to be honest I don't need that sort of aggravation.
Likewise, defined benefit pension, some nice dividends and private super, last time I applied for a cc they wanted stuff from my accountant, not interested anymore, don't really care about the sign up points, well ok maybe a little bit, but to be honest I don't need that sort of aggravation.
totally agree - I never thought I would have to do this sort of thing again, but we wanted to help out Ms FM and I stupidly thought we had pretty solid finances. . .
My accountant is overseas for 3 weeks, otherwise I would get him involved to try and explain things to the guy we are dealing with.
I think the thing that pisses me off most is the 33 year history with ANZ where until a few years ago we had large business loans which we always ran immaculately - our relationship manager said we were his best customers and we were just set and forget. Now I can’t convince them that we have any income. And why do we have to have any anyway. They have said Ms FM and her husband have no issues with repaying the loan, so why do we have to also be able to pay it as well, just because we are putting our house up as additional security. Whole thing is just stupid.
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Fun..... hope it clears up by tomorrow evening! A few of my colleagues are now staying tonight as most of today's flights have been cancelled out of EDI. Been snowing all day up here.
Agree about the aggravation. Thought we might like to increase our CC limit a bit (not that we really need to but thought it would be useful) so when I had to go into the branch for something I mentioned it. No problem they said. Just reapply again! It was a hassle last time so forget it.Likewise, defined benefit pension, some nice dividends and private super, last time I applied for a cc they wanted stuff from my accountant, not interested anymore, don't really care about the sign up points, well ok maybe a little bit, but to be honest I don't need that sort of aggravation.
If you find your bank is messing you around in 2018 it is welcome to the new world of “responsible lending”.
We ended up feeling we really didn’t have a bank any more after several months of negotiating. So much for 35 years where we gave them first opportunity. We gave the latest 3 car loans in our business to the “other guys” for the Japanese built Toyota Camry hybrids. The boot space has been fixed and everyone likes them.
Yes. This echoes us exactly. So this thread has raised issues with ANZ, Westpac, and NAB.If you find your bank is messing you around in 2018 it is welcome to the new world of “responsible lending”.
We ended up feeling we really didn’t have a bank any more after several months of negotiating. So much for 35 years where we gave them first opportunity. We gave the latest 3 car loans in our business to the “other guys” for the Japanese built Toyota Camry hybrids. The boot space has been fixed and everyone likes them.