"TrouserGate" - Australian Cricketers Caught Ball Tampering

[moa999]

I disagree 100%....he will speak to media just not when the media want him to speak. Did you see how distress his wife was?!

He'd just flown JNB-DXB-SYD with wife and two pretty young kids. I suspect he didn't get much sleep on the flights.
Not the right time to go in front of the media.

Think the worst thing they did was the initial media appearance.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

. Have to be to have been a tough, short-cough opener grinning back at 150kph+!

As opposed to another short-cough opener making merry of 150kph+ new balls that is in the news at present?

Not necessary disagreeing with your choice, but just this logic to justify it.

 

[turtlemichael]

I'm going to the match tomorrow as I have to the first three. I am not looking forward to the crowd reaction to the Australians.

 

[rock86]

I'm going to the match tomorrow as I have to the first three. I am not looking forward to the crowd reaction to the Australians.

As I said before South African fans need to look in their own backyard cause they have their captain who has been done twice.

It would also seem Faf continues to conveniently leave the zipper tampering out of his pressers when asked about his charges, because he knows that a zipper roughs up a ball exactly the same way as sandpaper does. On that has anyone else ever played crickets in whites with zippers? I honestly can't think of a pair of cricket whites I've owned that have them.

Anyway I wonder when Warner is going to speak, also anyone watch Sutherlands presser last night?

 

[OATEK]

Read this from Brett Geeves this morning, and it sums up my views as previously expressed in this thread:

"And this is why James Sutherland and the senior leaders of Australian cricket are as guilty as Smith, Warner and Bancroft.

It is their systems, structures, policies, guidelines and rules that have watered down the mindset to ball-tampering not ever being perceived as a form of cheating from grade to Test throughout Sutherland’s reign as CEO.....

This reactionary punishment from Sutherland is gross. And it reeks of individual salvation for him, his board and his senior ranking leaders." (https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...d/news-story/75bc8b5f00c27e92693f8e35ff343e47)

At least Lehmann has seen this.

 

[kpc]

Read this from Brett Geeves this morning, and it sums up my views as previously expressed in this thread:

"And this is why James Sutherland and the senior leaders of Australian cricket are as guilty as Smith, Warner and Bancroft.

It is their systems, structures, policies, guidelines and rules that have watered down the mindset to ball-tampering not ever being perceived as a form of cheating from grade to Test throughout Sutherland’s reign as CEO.....

This reactionary punishment from Sutherland is gross. And it reeks of individual salvation for him, his board and his senior ranking leaders." (https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...d/news-story/75bc8b5f00c27e92693f8e35ff343e47)

At least Lehmann has seen this.

Very good article. I agree 100%. The maximum penalty for ball tempering by the ICC is one test match ban (too lenient in my opinion but then amend it!) which they imposed on Smith....but CA imposes a 12 month ban in response to the media, political and commercial hysteria!!! Politicians like our tone deaf PM should concern themselves about their falling polls rather than commentating on things they have little knowledge about. I also found it staggering beyond belief that JS had not watched the Smith press conference prior to his own press conference early this morning!

 

[Pushka]

I'm going to the match tomorrow as I have to the first three. I am not looking forward to the crowd reaction to the Australians.

I’m hoping they will give the current team support but don’t think that will happen.

As I said before South African fans need to look in their own backyard cause they have their captain who has been done twice.

It would also seem Faf continues to conveniently leave the zipper tampering out of his pressers when asked about his charges, because he knows that a zipper roughs up a ball exactly the same way as sandpaper does. On that has anyone else ever played crickets in whites with zippers? I honestly can't think of a pair of cricket whites I've owned that have them.

Anyway I wonder when Warner is going to speak, also anyone watch Sutherlands presser last night?

Non zipped trousers are a new style. MrP’s whites always had zips. I’d say they were done away with maybe 15 years ago? Today’s styles are so much more relaxed than previously. I only commented on that a few weeks ago at home. Shirts were long sleeved and you had to roll them to create short sleeves. Buttons at the cuff. They were not allowed to wear sunglasses either and drinks were strictly limited. Nothing on the boundary to drink. Drinks breaks and injury time and that’s all.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

SMH today =
Email reveals umpire previously raised concerns about Smith and Warner

Match official Daryl Harper wrote a stinging email to Cricket Australia about the conduct of the pair during a Sheffield Shield match in 2016.

 

[cjd600]

As opposed to another short-cough opener making merry of 150kph+ new balls that is in the news at present?

Not necessary disagreeing with your choice, but just this logic to justify it.

Yes....
I think the key in what I tried to convey is ‘grinning back at it’.
The other short-cough you refer to does not play in this manner. A smirk or sneer, likely.
Not a grin which does capture the required spirit of sporting combat...

 

[RB]

Fair call....20/20...and again no disrespect to Sth Australian Dizzy, a legend.
My point is more that I see JL more connected, and cogniscent to the National team requirements right now,as in immediately, through both his coaching career, and also (more importantly in current climate) how he played the game.

The problem arises when there is so much info available about everything. I am a believer in forgiving but also realise a lot of high level sport is win at all costs. Certainly no hanging offence by Langer but it shows how hard nosed he was too
Langer lays famous 'clicky' bat case to rest | cricket.com.au

That’s a good point. He could have entered without the kids. Why subject them to that. Because it suited his purpose. The team in SA must be so angry at how he’s broken the system of Cricket.

Steve Smith needs to develop resilience and emotional maturity, not because he cried but his life has been pretty much run in a rarefied and fake atmosphere with few challenges other than play cricket. Most of us have been through so much more at his age. But now that has come to a crashing end.

Steve Smith has faults (now exposed to the world) but I am not sure the general public know enough about his upbringing/challenges/experiences to say he has always had a totally charmed life

 

[Daver6]

Just use the sign up in MEL.
"Why cant the English get wine out of a bottle?
Because they haven't any openers."

You mean this one?

 

[kpc]

The problem arises when there is so much info available about everything. I am a believer in forgiving but also realise a lot of high level sport is win at all costs. Certainly no hanging offence by Langer but it shows how hard nosed he was too
Langer lays famous 'clicky' bat case to rest | cricket.com.au

Wll technically that is cheating as well. That is why the 12th month ban handed out is so out of keeping of the offfence and past penalties for a similar offence!

 

[Toad]

He'd just flown JNB-DXB-SYD with wife and two pretty young kids. I suspect he didn't get much sleep on the flights.
Not the right time to go in front of the media.

Think the worst thing they did was the initial media appearance.

Why didn't they fly QF metal direct back to Sydney see as QF sponsor the team

 

[sjk]

Why didn't they fly QF metal direct back to Sydney see as QF sponsor the team

I reckon they’ve been punished enough.

 

[Toad]

I reckon they’ve been punished enough.

Lollllllllllllll totally agree. Mr Joyce needs to tune up the Spirit of Australia attitude or lack thereof in the National Carrier's staff, in particular customer service areas.

 

[Quickstatus]

That idiot of a person from K&J-O show who asked Smith that stupid question at the interview should be given a sidchrome. He is a tool.

Smith and the others should be left alone now

 

[Quickstatus]

Why didn't they fly QF metal direct back to Sydney see as QF sponsor the team

Because there was no QF63 on 28Mar and therefore no QF64 arriving back in SYD 29March

No QF63 on a Wednesday so no QF64 arriving into SYD on a Thursday

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Lollllllllllllll totally agree. Mr Joyce needs to tune up the Spirit of Australia attitude or lack thereof in the National Carrier's staff, in particular customer service areas.

Haha Qantas Spirit of Australia reflects the passengers not the airline : a dogged determination in the face of adversity.

What is Qantas that is the Aussie Spirit? Is Jetstar is more “drink beer eat meat pies and speak cough***g English”??

 

[Toad]

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Because there was no QF63 on 28Mar and therefore no QF64 arriving back in SYD 29March

No QF63 on a Wednesday so no QF64 arriving into SYD on a Thursday

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Haha Qantas Spirit of Australia reflects the passengers not the airline : a dogged determination in the face of adversity.

What is Qantas that is the Aussie Spirit?

Yes that true and that makes more sense about the flights but seems convenient not to fly QF back after what happened.

 

[Quickstatus]

Y

Yes that true and that makes more sense about the flights but seems convenient not to fly QF back after what happened.

I don’t see it that way. There was no benefit to them to stay any longer. They may have be even required to depart the team accomodation with the suspension. The quickest to get back would have been EK or SA.

And departing on EK immediately - that’s a good idea as well. Smith needs space.

 

[Pushka]

Well media reports today say they decided to fly them separately and not for logistics reasons.