UK - in or out of the EU? Travel Issues?

[OATEK]

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The fun has continued with Nicola Sturgeon. Is she utterly devoid of intellect or is she just 'look at me, me, me, me'?

Such determination to keep on losing!

 

[marki]

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Such determination to keep on losing!

Lol

 

[amaroo]

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All of my friends and most of my extended family think the same way.
I know 1 person who voted yes for every 10 people who voted no in the Scottish independence referendum.
I don't know a single family member/ friend in Scotland who voted for Brexit.

Different strokes for different folks. My dad is a proud Scot - he voted Leave .. as did all the others in the family that I've spoken with.

 

[amaroo]

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Are we not lucky?

 

[junbugging]

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Figure for Japan is two elections out of date, they don't get close to that now. Last one was 52.66%.

 

[Happy Trails]

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UK is way off too, hasn't been above 70% since 1997.

 

[amaroo]

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Figure for Japan is two elections out of date, they don't get close to that now. Last one was 52.66%.

UK is way off too, hasn't been above 70% since 1997.

Lol, the BBC must be the same inept organisation as our ABC - who Knew! The massive scale of Australia's election - BBC News

 

[andye]

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Regarding Princess Fiona as she's known (or was known when Alex Salmond was Shrek), I think it's a bit of both

I prefer the uncanny Jimmy Krankie similarity-apologies to those who won't get the cultural reference

 

[drron]

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And Boris is not going to run for PM-
Boris Johnson rules himself out of Conservative leader race - BBC News

 

[andye]

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And Boris is not going to run for PM-
Boris Johnson rules himself out of Conservative leader race - BBC News

That to me is a bigger shock than the Brexit vote...the Conservative party must have something serious over him

 

[vetrade]

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And Boris is not going to run for PM-
Boris Johnson rules himself out of Conservative leader race - BBC News

Maybe Boris realises that the difficulty of uniting the populace and managing the actual Brexit probably means the person to take over from Cameron may not get the Prime Ministership longer term. Maybe he's being strategic, or maybe the simple fact is that the assumption he would take on the role was wide of the mark.

 

[RooFlyer]

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Yeah - after any election about half the people hate you. In this case, not an election but the hating lot are a good chunk of your own party! Would have been tough to walk into Parliament as PM with no experience in the place.

 

[Princess Fiona]

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Hmm I suspect that the vote was as much of a surprise to Boris as it was to the financial markets and the poor poppet has cold feet

 

[drron]

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Apparently the rug was pulled from under him-
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-boris-johnson-tory-leadership-downing-street

 

[Geegeela]

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Michael Gove: why I'm standing for the Tory leadership | Coffee House

 

[OATEK]

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Hmm I suspect that the vote was as much of a surprise to Boris as it was to the financial markets and the poor poppet has cold feet

On the other hand, he must have known they could win in the week before, as at least one poll suggested it, just not the mainstream pollsters. And his wife wrote an article saying how she was a remainer, and Boris was not in the least surprised that he won.

Alas, he had his partner in crime lined up, and then Groves did to him what he did to Cameron (serial defector). So Boris keeps his powder dry, and when May struggles to get the deal done he comes along at the next election and takes up the baton.

Anyone who observed him after the London bombings knows his ability to inspire the crowd and lead recovery - he might come in handy yet.

 

[amaroo]

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On the other hand, he must have known they could win in the week before, as at least one poll suggested it, just not the mainstream pollsters. And his wife wrote an article saying how she was a remainer, and Boris was not in the least surprised that he won.

Alas, he had his partner in crime lined up, and then Groves did to him what he did to Cameron (serial defector). So Boris keeps his powder dry, and when May struggles to get the deal done he comes along at the next election and takes up the baton.

Anyone who observed him after the London bombings knows his ability to inspire the crowd and lead recovery - he might come in handy yet.

Agreed. Politics is a "dark art" the long gamers always win .... just look at John Howard.

 

[drron]

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For the economic implications of Brexit the new Moody's weekly report is interesting.Cant link to it but google it's title-"Brexit of Champions."
It says the economic repercussions of Brexit are more like the Y2K fear than the demise of Lehmans.Also suggests that the world economy is in a fragile state and any unexpected event may trigger a collapse pointing out trade is going downhill.With exports from the US down 6.5%,EU-4.6%,China-7.3% and Japan 9.0%.

Also good news for the UK economy.Tourism may boom-
American Brexodus: UK Hotel Searches Soar Following Brexit Vote

The Brexit vote and subsequent drop in the value of the pound has sparked huge demand from American travelers looking to grab a vacation bargain across the pond, with hotel searches for UK destinations up over 50% year-on-year, according to lodging expert Hotels.com®.

 

[junbugging]

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It says the economic repercussions of Brexit are more like the Y2K fear than the demise of Lehmans.

"As far as the US is concerned"... that context is pretty important.

 

[drron]

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Things getting a bit nasty on the Remain side-
Revealed: Labour MPs go to police over death threats after refusal to back Jeremy Corbyn