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So does anyone redeem SQ flights using SQ miles or you don't bother as they won't give you 77W or A380?

Well if you use SQ miles they will give you 77W/A380! If you meant US miles then I'm sure people do still because the regional product offered on the 773 and A333 between Australia and SIN is probably on a par or better than what TG offers on any Aus aircraft.
 
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Yep I meant US miles. Just had a look at the SQ J product for SYD-SIN-SYD on the 773 refurb, looks alright, not full flat seat but for this kind of flight I think it is acceptable :)

Are the taxes+surcharges a lot lower using US miles for SYD-SIN-SYD on SQ? vs using KF miles and booking direct with SQ?

Well if you use SQ miles they will give you 77W/A380! If you meant US miles then I'm sure people do still because the regional product offered on the 773 and A333 between Australia and SIN is probably on a par or better than what TG offers on any Aus aircraft.
 
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Yep I meant US miles. Just had a look at the SQ J product for SYD-SIN-SYD on the 773 refurb, looks alright, not full flat seat but for this kind of flight I think it is acceptable :)

Are the taxes+surcharges a lot lower using US miles for SYD-SIN-SYD on SQ? vs using KF miles and booking direct with SQ?

US doesn't charge fuel surcharges on award tickets so if KF does then there is a saving to be had. The taxes will of course be exactly the same.
 
US doesn't charge fuel surcharges on award tickets so if KF does then there is a saving to be had. The taxes will of course be exactly the same.

SQ KF does charge YQ on redemptions.

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Re: Go for f if u can......

Hi all,

After some suggestions for an upcoming trip in April 2013. We are planning on going to the USA for a wedding (preferably into LAX but not too fussed). But we want to maybe tack on a trip to Africa, I know it isnt exactly on the way, but none the less.

Ideal routing would be:
Syd - JNB
Jnb - LAX
LAX - Syd

I can see availability for the SYD- JNB and the LAX to SYD legs but having trouble coming up with a good route from JNB to LAX. I need to be in LAX by the 17th April morning, but can fly any time from Sunday 14th April to LAX.

Any suggestions welcome.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

Hi all,

After some suggestions for an upcoming trip in April 2013. We are planning on going to the USA for a wedding (preferably into LAX but not too fussed). But we want to maybe tack on a trip to Africa, I know it isnt exactly on the way, but none the less.

Ideal routing would be:
Syd - JNB
Jnb - LAX
LAX - Syd

I can see availability for the SYD- JNB and the LAX to SYD legs but having trouble coming up with a good route from JNB to LAX. I need to be in LAX by the 17th April morning, but can fly any time from Sunday 14th April to LAX.

Any suggestions welcome.

What class are you planning to travel in?
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

I can see availability for the SYD- JNB and the LAX to SYD legs but having trouble coming up with a good route from JNB to LAX. I need to be in LAX by the 17th April morning, but can fly any time from Sunday 14th April to LAX.

Any suggestions welcome.

What routing are you coming up with for SYD-JNB...via SIN or BKK? Anyway, I don't think they're going to let you do SYD-JNB-LAX. That's about 160% longer (e.g. going SYD-SIN-JNB-LAX) than the direct route which has good availability on UA.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

Business or First not really too fussed. Would prefer Business only.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

What routing are you coming up with for SYD-JNB...via SIN or BKK? Anyway, I don't think they're going to let you do SYD-JNB-LAX. That's about 160% longer (e.g. going SYD-SIN-JNB-LAX) than the direct route which has good availability on UA.

The argument might be "travel South Pacific to Africa return; first direct from South Pacific, second via USA with stopover in LA". Somehow, I don't think they are going to buy that.

They might "let" Voodz do so but they may be tempted to charge on the Round The World rate which is 300k in Business - quite high.

The alternative is to book 2 return itineraries - one South Pacific to Africa (use NZ/SA), the other Africa to USA/Canada (use SA, MS or UA by transiting within the continent). That's 240k in Business altogether. Note that if your transits or stopovers touch other continents not covered by the primary destination and origin, then unless you have no choice or it is cheaper, they will force you to pay the higher charge or disallow the routing. This, of course, means that you will travel to South Africa, then to America, then back home, but not directly from America to Australia, but via (not necessarily South) Africa.

Getting from Australia to South Africa without touching Asia would involve getting yourself to PER (can't use *A direct) then SA from PER to JNB. An alternative is use NZ to fly to AKL (e.g. SYD-AKL), then connect to AKL-PER, followed by PER-JNB. If you try for Asia, as I said there may be extra or it may be disallowed.

From South Africa to USA, you can either use SA to fly direct from South Africa to USA (then use connecting flights on UA or US); or fly to LOS (Lagos) using SA, then UA to America; or fly to CAI (Cairo) using SA or MS, then MS to America. It all should be the same cost (except possibly for taxes) but US DM may force you on a particular routing (viz. the most direct one). If you touch Europe and they allow you without costing more, you have plenty more options (e.g. TK, LH, LX, OS and more transit points for UA and even US services - though availability is a whole different ball game).


If you can't have too many indirects, then at least one long flight must be on SA so I'd be tempted towards an all Business itinerary. The only F services from Australia to Africa are on SQ (near impossible to get) or TG (fairly easy to get) - both touch Asia. From Africa to America you will need to fly to Lagos (on SA, no F) or to Europe (only F carriers are LH or LX) to connect to an F service (UA from Lagos). This may be all too much trouble, availability of F is scarce on Trans-Atlantic LH and LX and there may be routing problems not worth the extra expense in points, so perhaps this is another reason to stick to Business only.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

Business or First not really too fussed. Would prefer Business only.

Update:

Was looking at SYD - BKK - JNB (STOP)
JNB - LAX?
LAX - SYD direct.

Couldnt see any direct availability on UA on the dates i wanted. Looking on Aeroplan, Lifemiles and ANA.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

I'm pretty sure SA has a couple of daily flights JNB-GRU which have decent availability...from there you could plot a course to LAX. However I still think the whole idea is a non starter.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

JNB-LAX-SYD, that is going to be a longggg flight??? assuming short layover at LAX?
 
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Re: Go for f if u can......

To clarify, last trip i did was (for 150k points per person)
SYD - Seoul - Vancouver - STOP
Vancouver - Frankfurt - STOP
Frankfurt - BKK - SYD - STOP

Not a valid itinerary but was able to book it through the agent giving them specific flights. So I do think it is possible.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

To clarify, last trip i did was (for 150k points per person)
SYD - Seoul - Vancouver - STOP
Vancouver - Frankfurt - STOP
Frankfurt - BKK - SYD - STOP

Not a valid itinerary but was able to book it through the agent giving them specific flights. So I do think it is possible.

How long ago was this? In the early days of US DM, people could get away with quasi-Round The World itineraries just fine. They are a bit tougher on it now.

Of course, some agents are prepared to bend the rules (or rather not care about the rules), so if you can book it how you like it at a good price point, then go ahead.

Just use some of the lead-in options I gave in my post and check them out for availability. Note that when you fly from Africa to America, if you do not transit in Europe then your most likely entry point will be JFK, then you need to find a flight from JFK to LAX. It's probably best to search for these two routes separately for availability (i.e. in an availability search engine, don't type in origin JNB destination LAX, but rather do two (or more) searches based on how you will be splitting up the journey).
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

How long ago was this? In the early days of US DM, people could get away with quasi-Round The World itineraries just fine. They are a bit tougher on it now.

Of course, some agents are prepared to bend the rules (or rather not care about the rules), so if you can book it how you like it at a good price point, then go ahead.

Just use some of the lead-in options I gave in my post and check them out for availability. Note that when you fly from Africa to America, if you do not transit in Europe then your most likely entry point will be JFK, then you need to find a flight from JFK to LAX. It's probably best to search for these two routes separately for availability (i.e. in an availability search engine, don't type in origin JNB destination LAX, but rather do two (or more) searches based on how you will be splitting up the journey).

Thanks for the help and advice. I can see availability through JNB - CAI - LHR - LAX. Might not be doable, but might try it and see if it works.

I booked the last itinerary for June / July this year. So not long ago, first agent rejected it, second agent booked it no worry's. One leg in first from Frankfurt , BKK and Syd which calculated out at 150,000 miles.
 
Re: Go for f if u can......

Thanks for the help and advice. I can see availability through JNB - CAI - LHR - LAX. Might not be doable, but might try it and see if it works.

I booked the last itinerary for June / July this year. So not long ago, first agent rejected it, second agent booked it no worry's. One leg in first from Frankfurt , BKK and Syd which calculated out at 150,000 miles.
I think letting you do South Pacific to Europe via the NA is a minor transgression compared to ignoring the mileage of SYD-JNB-LAX via at least 3 other airports. I think this time you'll need even more luck with both the agent AND the rates desk. SYD-BKK-JNB-CAI-LHR-LAX = 5 segments in one direction and 22000 miles!
 
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business class might just be full for the flight you want. you could either introduce a stopover in Bangkok and take a later flight with business class, or fly to another European destination. the A346 is not updated, they hae angled lie flat seats, although who knows by June next year what aircraft type TG will be flying to London.

there are lots of other options out of Bangkok, youre not limited to TG.

Is it possible to depart from a different airport?

e.g PER-BKK-LHR and return on FRA-BKK-PER?

Problem is I need to arrive in LHR, but prefer not to return via LHR, CDG or FRA would be better
 
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