Vinomofo Wine Deals

[abeja]

Correction of earlier post of mine : Schild Edel 2019 Shiraz cost me $29/bott, not $19. 2019 means prior to Schild the brand being bought by CW, and the winery being bought by Atlas. Schild vignerons still grow and supply the grapes to CW, who now make the Schild wines, presumably in their big Limestone Coast facility Stonehaven (which CW bought from Hardy's & then revamped)

 

[abeja]

On another branch. Where do you people come up with these mysterious discount codes? The only ones I've been aware of, are when VM themselves put up a code, good for a brief period.

 

[redbigot]

Correction of earlier post of mine : Schild Edel 2019 Shiraz cost me $29/bott, not $19. 2019 means prior to Schild the brand being bought by CW, and the winery being bought by Atlas. Schild vignerons still grow and supply the grapes to CW, who now make the Schild wines, presumably in their big Limestone Coast facility Stonehaven (which CW bought from Hardy's & then revamped)

CW Wines is a very inventive and organised company. When they take over other producers (eg Ulithorne, Cape Barren, Schild) they go on to release a raft of wines from vintages prior to the takeover which were never part of the range before the takeover. Either they were exceedingly good at buying failing producers that had heaps of great wines in barrel, tank or bottle or they drew on other reserves or purchases and released them under the labels they now own. All perfectly legal of course, but an interesting phenomenon.

 

[tielec]

CW Wines is a very inventive and organised company. When they take over other producers (eg Ulithorne, Cape Barren, Schild) they go on to release a raft of wines from vintages prior to the takeover which were never part of the range before the takeover. Either they were exceedingly good at buying failing producers that had heaps of great wines in barrel, tank or bottle or they drew on other reserves or purchases and released them under the labels they now own. All perfectly legal of course, but an interesting phenomenon.

Very interesting idea, hadn't occurred to me but definitely could be happening.

 

[olympicwiz]

CW Wines is a very inventive and organised company. When they take over other producers (eg Ulithorne, Cape Barren, Schild) they go on to release a raft of wines from vintages prior to the takeover which were never part of the range before the takeover. Either they were exceedingly good at buying failing producers that had heaps of great wines in barrel, tank or bottle or they drew on other reserves or purchases and released them under the labels they now own. All perfectly legal of course, but an interesting phenomenon.

I wondered if they "recreated" back vintages like this

https://www.cwwines.com/collections/reschke/products/empyrean-cabernet-sauvignon-1998

 

[redbigot]

I wondered if the "recreated" back vintages like this

https://www.cwwines.com/collections/reschke/products/empyrean-cabernet-sauvignon-1998

I think it would be a little difficult to go that far back. With Reschke there was a huge amount in bottle, tank and barrel at point of sale. That looks like the original label/packaging, but CW seem to have excellent arrangements for labelling/packaging etc.

 

[abeja]

CW Wines is a very inventive and organised company. When they take over other producers (eg Ulithorne, Cape Barren, Schild) they go on to release a raft of wines from vintages prior to the takeover which were never part of the range before the takeover. Either they were exceedingly good at buying failing producers that had heaps of great wines in barrel, tank or bottle or they drew on other reserves or purchases and released them under the labels they now own. All perfectly legal of course, but an interesting phenomenon.

Very organised, and also local. I used to buy from a company I'll just call 'GWD'. They bought up the names of premium wines formerly made by A-graders like Chris Ringland, often as export wines (R Wines was the Ringland company selling into California). 'GWD' are still releasing these, many years after the original winemaker ceased any association - I know this for certain eg FU (now they've added "2" onto end of FU) also former Ringland wines The Wine and Evil Incarnate. Or Colonial Estate is another - this time formerly made by a French winemaker, who then departed. Another unrelated one is Songlines. The difference with CW, is that CW tends to still be using the grapes from the original vineyards, as far as I can ascertain, and they make the wine themselves. Plus they know how to make good wine. But as you suggest, the RRP's & hence the discounts, may be opaque & at times, fictional. The other huge difference between the two I mention is that with 'GWD', you cannot have a clue who grows the grapes nor makes the wines.

 

[redbigot]

Very organised, and also local. I used to buy from a company I'll just call 'GWD'. They bought up the names of premium wines formerly made by A-graders like Chris Ringland, often as export wines (R Wines was the Ringland company selling into California). 'GWD' are still releasing these, many years after the original winemaker ceased any association - I know this for certain eg FU (now they've added "2" onto end of FU) also former Ringland wines The Wine and Evil Incarnate. Or Colonial Estate is another - this time formerly made by a French winemaker, who then departed. Another unrelated one is Songlines. The difference with CW, is that CW tends to still be using the grapes from the original vineyards, as far as I can ascertain, and they make the wine themselves. Plus they know how to make good wine. But as you suggest, the RRP's & hence the discounts, may be opaque & at times, fictional. The other huge difference between the two I mention is that with 'GWD', you cannot have a clue who grows the grapes nor makes the wines.

I refused to buy from GWD for many years after a very nasty exchange with the aptly named Tony Sells who was running the show back then. After he moved on I still only buy very occasionally and very selectively, mostly the quite reliable Colonial Estate Sparkling Shiraz when at the bottom of the price cycle.. Your Colonial Estate mention is only a part of that story and not entirely accurate. Also Normans and Viking on the long list of their distressed label acquisitions.

 

[michaelm]

Waiting to see if there is a $20 off code for today that will seal a whisky bargain I think is pretty sharp! Not saying which one it is because I don't want it to sell out before I hear of a code haha.

Anyone else eyeing off anything? There are actually a few sharply priced quality bottles today. Sing out if you hear of a code!

 

[tjb]

Waiting to see if there is a $20 off code for today that will seal a whisky bargain I think is pretty sharp! Not saying which one it is because I don't want it to sell out before I hear of a code haha.

Anyone else eyeing off anything? There are actually a few sharply priced quality bottles today. Sing out if you hear of a code!

Any pointers? After a "thorough" 5min research it looks like some reasonable offers but adding $15 shipping brings it close to market pricing

 

[michaelm]

Any pointers? After a "thorough" 5min research it looks like some reasonable offers but adding $15 shipping brings it close to market pricing

Hah ok - i've got my eye on the Glenallachie 10 but my shipping is $9.90. But free shipping and any discount would make it pretty sharp for a sometimes hard to get hold of whisky.

 

[tjb]

Hah ok - i've got my eye on the Glenallachie 10 but my shipping is $9.90. But free shipping and any discount would make it pretty sharp for a sometimes hard to get hold of whisky.

Thanks, yeah free shipping and discount would also make me pull the trigger on one or two

 

[abeja]

I refused to buy from GWD for many years after a very nasty exchange with the aptly named Tony Sells who was running the show back then. After he moved on I still only buy very occasionally and very selectively, mostly the quite reliable Colonial Estate Sparkling Shiraz when at the bottom of the price cycle.. Your Colonial Estate mention is only a part of that story and not entirely accurate. Also Normans and Viking on the long list of their distressed label acquisitions.

I refused to buy from GWD for many years after a very nasty exchange with the aptly named Tony Sells who was running the show back then. After he moved on I still only buy very occasionally and very selectively, mostly the quite reliable Colonial Estate Sparkling Shiraz when at the bottom of the price cycle.. Your Colonial Estate mention is only a part of that story and not entirely accurate. Also Normans and Viking on the long list of their distressed label acquisitions.

Yes you're right that my Colonial Estate summary is only part of the story. But the French connection was very strong, including Maltus bringing out equipment from St Emilion, and frogs onboard (Pauquet & Beziat), plus obsessive hands on, old school approach (supposedly replicating methods of the old country, but I reckon in reality, not a lot of producers in those overpriced, over lauded French appellations actually makes wine in this fanatical way any more. And good Australian wines often have more labour intensive love heaped on them, than many of the lauded $$$ Euro wines)

 

[Bill Bosworth]

Thanks, yeah free shipping and discount would also make me pull the trigger on one or two

I bought a $90 rum this morning without code and for some reason shipping was free when I logged in.

Didn't see much that looked like good value - a google of many showed one could get it somewhere else cheaper than VMs crazy crazy once in a lifetime never to be repeated sharp a blahblah price.