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blackantrader said:
pref acj 17 vs 18? got a doz 17
..... hindsight half doz both vintage would've been better.
guess asking worth getting 18?
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They are different wines if you look at the difference in blends between 2017 and 2018.

I only tried 2017 however a friend tried both and said that both were terrific with 2018 being more like an excellent McLaren Cab Sav.
 
18 is also a better vintage for Mclaren.

I don't think the change in grapes is a bad thing - they might just be more confident in the cs of that year to not have to mix it with other varieties
 
DaveLoftus said:
I've had the 07s, 08s and 09s of both cab and shiraz and all have been lovely wines for my palate. Have ordered a case of this, will report back later in the week
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So the Umamu Estate Ann's CS 11 arrived, so I gave one a try. Quite disjointed to start and a bit sweet fruited upfront, almost cassis-like. Needed a good decant and time to come together. Ended up being much more savoury and balanced. Would be disappointed at $60, can live with $30, but I feel that the previous standard estate wines they had here were better value.
 
roc said:
With the vinomofo ebay 20% discount, porque no los dos? Both great buys at about 28 and 32 a bottle respectively

I've drunk one of the matrix and bought more but not tried acj yet
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Both are excellent at this price point - I’m onto my second carton of both.
 
olympicwiz said:
Just got the email re 2017 Pirramimma Heritage Shiraz is available

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PRE-ARRIVAL: Pirramimma Heritage Limited Edition Shiraz 2017

We are big fans of Pirramimma here at the ‘fo - enjoying their bold and powerful reds from across the range. We sold a ludicrous amount of the 2016 vintage o...
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I didn’t like 2016, can’t see why 2017 would be better. YMMV but you have been warned!
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I enjoyed it, my brother and a friend. Both asked me to order more for them.

Multiple people here, I counted at least 4-5 enjoyed it too.

I haven't seen anyone else say otherwise. You may be the odd one out that doesn't take a liking to it.

I'm ordering ACJ, but I may order the '17 simply because my brother wants 6, and my friend wants 2-4. I'll only end up keeping 2. I think on eBay, it comes down to $12-13 a bottle which is pretty cheap.(Can't find it on eBay, but thought it was there)

Pirramimma Heritage Limited Edition Shiraz | Vivino Australia

Heritage Limited Edition Shiraz is a Red wine. See reviews and pricing for this wine.
www.vivino.com
 
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Mynameislucluc said:
I enjoyed it, my brother and a friend. Both asked me to order more for them.

Multiple people here, I counted at least 4-5 enjoyed it too.

I haven't seen anyone else say otherwise. You may be the odd one out that doesn't take a liking to it.

I'm ordering ACJ, but I may order the '17 simply because my brother wants 6, and my friend wants 2-4. I'll only end up keeping 2. I think on eBay, it comes down to $12-13 a bottle which is pretty cheap.(Can't find it on eBay, but thought it was there)

Pirramimma Heritage Limited Edition Shiraz | Vivino Australia

Heritage Limited Edition Shiraz is a Red wine. See reviews and pricing for this wine.
www.vivino.com
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I actually didn’t like the heritage shiraz 2016 either, but I thought I was the only one. Too much vanilla for my liking. It tasted to me like someone had added vanilla essense to it. I have kept it hoping it might get better.
I have also bought some ACJ 2018 to try. I didn’t think the 2017 was still available.
 
Timratoo said:
I actually didn’t like the heritage shiraz 2016 either, but I thought I was the only one. Too much vanilla for my liking. It tasted to me like someone had added vanilla essense to it. I have kept it hoping it might get better.
I have also bought some ACJ 2018 to try. I didn’t think the 2017 was still available.
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You certainly weren’t the only one. To me it lacked the complexity and body and was a mediocre boring wine.

2017 vintage was cooler and I found quite a few McLaren Vale shiraz to be too lean for my taste. However 2017 ACJ blend was a stand out for me. Pure magic. I think 2018 ACJ would be very good too from the reports that I hear.
 
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olympicwiz said:
You certainly weren’t the only one. To me it lacked the complexity and body and was a mediocre boring wine.

2017 vintage was cooler and I found quite a few McLaren Vale shiraz to be too lean for my taste. However 2017 ACJ blend was a stand out for me. Pure magic. I think 2018 ACJ would be very good too from the reports that I hear.
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Yeah, I liked the Heritage 2016 at the price, but thought it was a bit restrained. The vanilla description is apt I think. I have some ACJ that I haven’t tried yet, and decided the 2017 Heritage Cabernet would probably be worth $12.50 as a quaffer.
 
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Timratoo said:
I actually didn’t like the heritage shiraz 2016 either, but I thought I was the only one. Too much vanilla for my liking. It tasted to me like someone had added vanilla essense to it. I have kept it hoping it might get better.
I have also bought some ACJ 2018 to try. I didn’t think the 2017 was still available
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The 2016 was sold out before it even hit the website I believe, my broker found me a carton.
It literally sold out from the pre-arrival email, which I think is a good indication that it's a solid wine for the price.

The beautiful thing about this forum, is that you will see different people's opinions on different wines.
Vinomofo has a pretty awesome return policy, incase you don't enjoy any wine. :)
 
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