ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[cove]

The two middle seats in row 2 of the refurbed A330 worked a treat last night from MEL-PER. Had a sleep after a meal and movie so all good getting home later in the evening.

 

[moa999]

YSSY also seems to report that QPJ will be undergoing a check, which might explain the two month period - although didn't QPH/QPI not undergo checks?

I suspect all the aircraft undergo some form of check when refurbed - just depends on how major.. Id still expect QPJ to be a month not two

 

[Christopher Campbell]

Yeah I agree should be only a month. Maybe after QPJ is refurbed and back in service QPG could be repainted?

 

[Christopher Campbell]

I wonder when EBM will enter? Maybe when N380HA has left? EBA has also be in maintened since the 8th April. Does it look EBA is a one month check?

 

[docjames]

The 2-3-2 J bird that subbed in from the new J seating was a big stepdown from F after landing in SYD the other day.

How many of these 2-3-2 configs are left? (Yes, the middle seat is blocked).

 

[moa999]

How many of these 2-3-2 configs are left? (Yes, the middle seat is blocked).

Still 4 at present - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
And 1 of the similar 2x2x2 config with fold-up screens - EBM

 

[docjames]

Still 4 at present - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
And 1 of the similar 2x2x2 config with fold-up screens - EBM

Thanks. Cant go soon enough!

 

[srados]

I agree, definitely can't go soon enough!
Out of last four flights Per-Syd return, three have been the 2-3-2 configuration.
Yes its J but still feels somewhat cramped being 6'8 in the old scale.

 

[UpInTheAir:)]

I agree, definitely can't go soon enough!
Out of last four flights Per-Syd return, three have been the 2-3-2 configuration.
Yes its J but still feels somewhat cramped being 6'8 in the old scale.

I've had three out of three in the old configuration the last 7 days (MEL-PER return) after having flown only VA suites for the last 2 years...
I had read some reviews and was hoping to try the QF equivalent.
Considering the fares are pretty much the same price the seats are really letting QF down. I think the only people that fly them are the extremely loyal QF pax who perhaps don't know any better (or have no VA points).

 

[moa999]

Some negative news on the refurbs from the ever reliable FredJ on YSSY on the 332 front (of which there are 7 left to be refurbed - EBG, EBL, EBM, EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR)

EBB goes in for heavy shortly after EBA. Not sure which or when the next A332 reconfig is.

EBA/EBB have already been refurbed, and EBA went into maint on 8-April
EBA/EBB are 13.5, 13.4yrs respectively and EBC/EBD 13.2yrs so some I would say high potential that they need to complete similar C-checks on all 4 of those 332s back to back.

Chris has previously mentioned his latest comment on the 333s

QPJ will be parked in BNE from the 23rd April, unless needed, until the 3rd May when it will then enter the hangar for a check and reconfiguration.

So the following is a new rough guess at the schedule for remaining 330s (assuming a 1-month heavy C-check on EBA-EBD)
April - nothing (EBA check and HA aircraft in maint)
May - QPJ (+EBB check)
June - 1 refurb (+ EBC)
July - 1 refurb (+ EBD)
August - 2 refurbs
September - 2 refurbs
October - Final refurb

Of course potential for three aircraft in the hanger, but also unsure of any other maint tasks in the meantime if QF Maint is doing the refurb work for HA 330s (they are refurbing 22 aircraft) or just C-checks (only N380HA and N381HA are 6yo, other aircraft are quite a bit younger)

 

[UpInTheAir:)]

Thanks moa999
Thankfully my QF WP status is ok for this year

 

[hutch]

Some negative news on the refurbs from the ever reliable FredJ on YSSY on the 332 front (of which there are 7 left to be refurbed - EBG, EBL, EBM, EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR)


EBA/EBB have already been refurbed, and EBA went into maint on 8-April
EBA/EBB are 13.5, 13.4yrs respectively and EBC/EBD 13.2yrs so some I would say high potential that they need to complete similar C-checks on all 4 of those 332s back to back.

Chris has previously mentioned his latest comment on the 333s


So the following is a new rough guess at the schedule for remaining 330s (assuming a 1-month heavy C-check on EBA-EBD)
April - nothing (EBA check and HA aircraft in maint)
May - QPJ (+EBB check)
June - 1 refurb (+ EBC)
July - 1 refurb (+ EBD)
August - 2 refurbs
September - 2 refurbs
October - Final refurb

Of course potential for three aircraft in the hanger, but also unsure of any other maint tasks in the meantime if QF Maint is doing the refurb work for HA 330s (they are refurbing 22 aircraft) or just C-checks (only N380HA and N381HA are 6yo, other aircraft are quite a bit younger)

Getting awfully close to my November flight in an A332 :-/

 

[moa999]

So given the delay I will update the tracker.

Updated based on Qantas Source posts / FR24/FA data / YSSY board / above

-- Aircraft undergoing refurb in Brisbane
*N380HA 330-200 - In 27/3/16 Exp 30/4? (Hawaiian Airlines)
*VH-EBA 330-200 - In 8/4/16 Exp 8/5? (Check only, already refurbed)

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 9 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPE, QPF, QPG, QPH, QPI
A330-200 11 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBC, EBD, EBE, EBF, EBJ, EBK, EBN, EBS, EBV
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPG-QPJ yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s are EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)

-- Refurbishment history
VH-EBV 330-200 - 1 mth 15 days - In 16/11/14 Out 31/12/14
VH-QPA 330-300 - 2 mth 13 days - In 3/11/14 Out 16/1/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 2/8-20/8 )
VH-EBA 330-200 - 1 mth 12 days - In 1/1/15 Out 13/2/15
VH-QPC 330-300 - 2 mth 6 days - In 17/1/15 Out 23/3/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 16/7/15-2/8/15)
VH-EBJ 330-200 - 1 mth 3 days - In 14/3/15 Out 17/4/15 (SIN repaint 27/2-13/3)
VH-QPB 330-300 - 2 mth 7 days - In 16/2/15 Out 23/4/15 (SIN repaint 31/1-16/2, C8 check)
VH-EBS 330-200 - 30 days - In 26/4/15 Out 25/5/15
VH-QPD 330-300 - 2 mth 2 days - In 23/4/15 - out 25/6/15 (SIN repaint 15/3-30/3, C8 check)
VH-EBB 330-200 - 27 days - In 8/6/15 - Out 4/7/15
VH-QPI 330-300 - 28 days - In 7/7/15 Out 3/8/15 (Still needs repaint, no C check)
VH-EBK 330-200 - 31 days - In 22/7/15 Out 22/8/15 (SIN repaint 22/8-9/9)
VH-EBF 330-200 - 28 days - In 27/8/15 Out 23/9/15 (SIN repaint 5/8/15-26/8 from JQ)
VH-QPE 330-300 - 2 mth 1 day - In 4/8/15 Out 5/10/15 (SIN repaint 25/4-12/5, C8 check)
VH-EBE 330-200 - 1 mth 4 days - In 25/9/15 Out 28/10/15 (SIN repaint 28/10-17/11)
VH-QPF 330-300 - 2 mth 8 days - In 5/10/15 Out 12/12/15 (SIN repaint 13/7-29/7)
VH-EBC 330-200 - 28 days - In 25/11/15 Out 22/12/15
VH-QPH 330-300 - 31 days - In 10/1/16 Out 9/2/16
VH-EBD 330-200 - 26 days - In 27/1/16 Out 21/2/16
VH-EBN 330-200 - 35 days - In 20/2/16 Out 25/3/16
VH-QPG 330-300 - 2 mth 5 days - In 12/2/16 Out 16/4/16

-- Likely next
VH-QPJ (In 3/5, Exp 1/6)
VH-EBB-EBD (likely need checks similar to EBA)

-- 330-200 configs (of 18 )
7 - 28J/243Y Dom with Vantage XL Business Suite, QStreaming iPads in Y- EBA*, EBB, EBC, EBD, EBE, EBF, EBJ, EBK
3 - 28J/243Y Int/Dom with Vantage XL Business Suite, Panasonic ex2 AVOD in Y - EBN, EBS, EBV
2 - 36J/199Y Int/Dom with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBL
1 - 36J/265Y Dom with 2x2x2 J Silverwing, Panasonic AVOD - EBM
4 - 36J/268Y Dom with 2x3x2 J Recaro workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
1 - Under Check - EBA (in Dom Suite, QStreaming config)

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Danger - to update your table (from 22/2)
Delete EBN* from F2. Add EBN to F8
Delete QPG* from F5. Add QPG to F9
Put * against EBA in F8

And then in a few days (once QPJ starts sitting in BNE on 23/4 prior to refurb commencing 3/5)
Delete Column 5. Add QPJ* to F9

 

[UpInTheAir:)]

Yey QF business suite! They do exist

 

[penegal]

That is not Virgin Uppy...

 

[TomVexille]

Yey QF business suite! They do exist

Where's the Champagne?

 

[moa999]

Yey QF business suite! They do exist

1 in 4. You definitely haven't had the best of luck but at least you got one.

 

[Gordon7]

My wife and I are looking to book a return trip in Business class from Sydney to Singapore in February 2017. By this date all Qantas A330's are expected to have been refurbished into the new 1-2-1 cabin formation. To book a February flight now the seating selection is the old 2-2-2 formation. If we now select a seat based on the 2-2-2 formation and our flight subsequently changes to the new arrangement which has fewer business class seats, how are they going to accommodate all people who booked a business class seat before the change is made ?

 

[moa999]

Interesting. I'd book a seat that exists in the new format.

 

[Gordon7]

Interesting. I'd book a seat that exists in the new format.

But the problem is if we book now, which is what we want to do, the seat selection is in the current format.
Very confused how this will work when the flight changes to the new, fewer seat configuration, and all seats are potentially booked.
Surely this occurs now with the progressive rollout of the new configuration ?