Australian state border restrictions

[Ric]

Use cherry picker to go in via the balcony. Is that direct or indirect?

I guess depends on what floor you are at!!

To get back on track. Any guesses on when Victoria will reclassify Greater Sydney again? Anyone?

 

[Princess Fiona]

So with most of Regional NSW downgraded to an orange zone, does that mean I could go there from Metropolitan Melbourne and return, or is outbound blocked now (I would think NSW would be more likely to block us based on the case numbers now)? Of course this is once the current 15km limit from home is lifted in another month or so. Can't go anywhere just yet.

NSW won’t block you. You can certainly visit Regional NSW. On return you would have to get tested after you arrive back in Victoria and isolate until your result. I myself travelled to Melbourne from an orange NSW zone earlier this year.

 

[antycbr]

I guess depends on what floor you are at!!

To get back on track. Any guesses on when Victoria will reclassify Greater Sydney again? Anyone?

Once they have reclassified Metro Melbourne as extreme risk? /s

 

[nutwood]

Meanwhile Tasmania still has all of NSW classified as High Risk, even areas that have never had Covid within 100 km's.

 

[antycbr]

Another charming story:

When Karrina Kemp shared her story about being stranded outside Queensland, she had already spent three weeks in a tent in northern NSW with her three children – and there was no end in sight. Ms Kemp is now set to go home on Sunday and she and her children have spent the week in far greater comfort, thanks to the kindness of Herald readers and a grant from the NSW government.

‘I literally cried’: Herald readers help family left homeless by Queensland border closure

Karrina Kemp and her three children spent the week in greater comfort thanks to the kindness of Herald readers and a grant from the NSW government.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Seat0B]

Careful, he’ll become your Territory Daddy….

Surprised Canberra Airport group aren’t having a go at him by now.

There’ll be a lot of people with essential work in Batemans Bay soon.

Now that is just a creepy, creepy visual right there!

 

[eastwest101]

Another charming story:

When Karrina Kemp shared her story about being stranded outside Queensland, she had already spent three weeks in a tent in northern NSW with her three children – and there was no end in sight. Ms Kemp is now set to go home on Sunday and she and her children have spent the week in far greater comfort, thanks to the kindness of Herald readers and a grant from the NSW government.

‘I literally cried’: Herald readers help family left homeless by Queensland border closure

Karrina Kemp and her three children spent the week in greater comfort thanks to the kindness of Herald readers and a grant from the NSW government.

www.smh.com.au

Love the logic of the QLD government there, make them fly from Ballina down to SYD and then fly back to Brisbane to then be locked up in hotel quarantine at a cost of approx $5K for 14 days, and then are able to fly back home to Bundaberg. Undoubtlably they will/should get an exemption from the Quarrantine Fees from the State Government of Brisbane, Moreton Bay, Sunshine Coast, Noosa, Ipswich, Logan, Gold Coast, and the Redlands.

At least a few individual Sydney Morning Herald readers and the NSW government showed some compassion to these people, unlike the Premier of Brisbane, Moreton Bay, Sunshine Coast, Noosa, Ipswich, Logan, Gold Coast, and the Redlands and their public servants.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Any intel on when VIC will open up to NSW?
Will it be 70% double vaccinated or 80% or some other arbitrary date like Melbourne Cup day?

I’d love for the border between us to open up ASAP. I think it would kick along the other states to get vaxxed if we can show that it can be done in a safe way.
Would also allow more traffic on the MEL/SYD route.

 

[Lynda2475]

Cant see it happening before Vic hits 80% which will be after NSW does.

I have classic reward flights booked for early Jan (rebooked twice already from June and October), but still wouldnt bet money on being able to take them.

 

[SYD]

Cant see it happening before Vic hits 80% which will be after NSW does.

Even then, Dan‘s roadmap was pretty underwhelming. You couldn’t imagine any radical shift while case numbers are rising but presuming they soon hit the tipping point of total jabbed v new cases, he might recalibrate?

 

[Lynda2475]

Even then, Dan‘s roadmap was pretty underwhelming. You couldn’t imagine any radical shift while case numbers are rising but presuming they soon hit the tipping point of total jabbed v new cases, he might recalibrate?

Perhaps, until I can meet up with friends and collegaues and restaurants are open for indoor dining and theatres/museums/galleries reopen there seems little point in making the trip. If one is risking having to spend the entire time in a hotel room, may as well stay home.

 

[mviy]

Any intel on when VIC will open up to NSW?
Will it be 70% double vaccinated or 80% or some other arbitrary date like Melbourne Cup day?

Maybe when we hit 80% for 16+ or possibly even 80% for 12+ (the next stage on the VIC roadmap after 80% for 16+).

80% for 16+ is likely to be just after Cup Day unless they can really ramp up he 2nd doses of Pfizer bringing lots forward to 3 weeks after the first.

Though if VIC reaches 90% first dose for 16+ in a few weeks or so he could even want to wait for 90% for 16+ in VIC or a certain threshold of 7 day average case numbers in NSW.

If NSW case numbers are huge I think he’s likely to be cautious. The Premier can’t afford another city wide lockdown soon after coming out of the current one.

However if NSW cases are under 500 a day when VIC reaches 80% he may be more likely to open things up at the 80% mark.

The VIC Premier has said in the past that they will take both vaccination rates and case numbers into account when deciding what to do.

 

[antycbr]

Maybe when we hit 80% for 16+ or possibly even 80% for 12+ (the next stage on the VIC roadmap after 80% for 16+).

80% for 16+ is likely to be just after Cup Day unless they can really ramp up he 2nd doses of Pfizer bringing lots forward to 3 weeks after the first.

Though if VIC reaches 90% first dose for 16+ in a few weeks or so he could even want to wait for 90% for 16+ in VIC or a certain threshold of 7 day average case numbers in NSW.

If NSW case numbers are huge I think he’s likely to be cautious. The Premier can’t afford another city wide lockdown soon after coming out of the current one.

However if NSW cases are under 500 a day when VIC reaches 80% he may be more likely to open things up at the 80% mark.

The VIC Premier has said in the past that they will take both vaccination rates and case numbers into account when deciding what to do.

Cute that he will consider case numbers when VIC is running 4x the numbers in NSW.

 

[MARTINE]

Any intel on when VIC will open up to NSW?
Will it be 70% double vaccinated or 80% or some other arbitrary date like Melbourne Cup day?

I’d love for the border between us to open up ASAP. I think it would kick along the other states to get vaxxed if we can show that it can be done in a safe way.
Would also allow more traffic on the MEL/SYD route.

How to get a ticket for the Melbourne Cup

How can I get a ticket for the Melbourne Cup? Your questions answered, after the Victoria Racing Club received approval to host 10,000 people on Cup Day.

www.theage.com.au

Announced as a ‘trial of the vaccinated‘ 10000 vax pax with priority to VRC members for Melb Cup Day. I have to wade through the fine print to see if this equates to being able to also see my elderly father who lives in a residential care facility in a region (not seen in over 3 months). If not - although happy to see things opening - will be really angry/disappointed … but I need to read the facts first.

 

[Lynda2475]

80% for 16+ is likely to be just after Cup Day unless they can really ramp up he 2nd doses of Pfizer bringing lots forward to 3 weeks after the first.

NSW on track to be at 90% double vaxed 16+ on 29th Oct which is before Melbourne Cup day, so allowing us in will have more to do with what is happening locally rather than in NSW.

Cant really worry about NSW bringing Covid in when its already circulating more widely in Victoria, a smaller population yet a higher daily case record despite much lower rates of testing.

 

[mviy]

It’s one thing to allow Victorians to move more freely within the state. It’s another to allow people to freely come from other places interstate and overseas with high case numbers. We may not agree with this viewpoint, but it’s a big shift to go from closer to COVID-zero to let it rip and that shift will take time.

I expect the Premier will be much more likely to go slow on interstate travel and international travel than other aspects of reopening.

 

[antycbr]

It’s one thing to allow Victorians to move more freely within the state. It’s another to allow people to freely come from other places interstate and overseas with high case numbers. We may not agree with this viewpoint, but it’s a big shift to go from closer to COVID-zero to let it rip and that shift will take time.

I expect the Premier will be much more likely to go slow on interstate travel and international travel than other aspects of reopening.

That’s fine… we’re going overseas!!!

 

[jb747]

Any intel on when VIC will open up to NSW?

I'm surprised that neither side of the border has imposed a restriction re vaccination requirements for the locals to cross.

The cops have been a fixture here for far too long, but without any announcement, they packed up and left just the other day. Curiously, this is pretty much what happened late last year, when there were roadblocks one day, and magically gone the next. No announcements or comments from the government on either occasion.

 

[mviy]

NSW on track to be at 90% double vaxed 16+ on 29th Oct which is before Melbourne Cup day, so allowing us in will have more to do with what is happening locally rather than in NSW.

Cant really worry about NSW bringing Covid in when its already circulating more widely in Victoria, a smaller population yet a higher daily case record despite much lower rates of testing.

I don’t disagree with this logic, but MEL shouldn’t be the most locked down city in the world and yet it is. Expecting our politicians to make rational decisions seems to be expecting a lot.

If VIC does open up at 80% VIC vaccination to NSW travellers I expect both full vaccination and some form of COVID testing would be required at least initially. Whether that would be PCR or Rapid Test I don’t know.

 

[ruben38]

I don’t disagree with this logic, but MEL shouldn’t be the most locked down city in the world and yet it is. Expecting our politicians to make rational decisions seems to be expecting a lot.

If VIC does open up at 80% VIC vaccination to NSW travellers I expect both full vaccination and some form of COVID testing would be required at least initially. Whether that would be PCR or Rapid Test I don’t know.

Isn't it really a matter of when they make NSW all an orange zone? Then you have to get a test on arrival and isolate until negative. At the moment Greater Sydney and a mix of regional zones are red, so 14 days quarantine. But is that for NSW visitors, or only open to returning Vic residents at the moment?