Ban the hi vis gear in business lounge!

[medhead]

Work wear is invariably long sleeve shirts, trousers and closed footwear. All without offensive words or messages. I'm sorry but that meets my definition of smart casual.

 

[JohnK]

I totally agree.

And lets not get started with the entitlement to wear anything people want in the lounges just because it is their stipulated site work uniform. Think about it for 2 seconds with common sense and you will agree and stop being selfish.

- So is it OK for a mechanic to wear dirty overalls into the lounges and on flights or are people going to complain?
- How about a sanitary engineer straight after finishing the garbage run?
- Strippers?

It is very simple. Just bring a change of clothes with you. It cannot be that difficult....

 

[markis10]

Work wear is invariably long sleeve shirts, trousers and closed footwear. All without offensive words or messages. I'm sorry but that meets my definition of smart casual.

Perhaps you have missed your vocation as a QP manager Medhead? Smart casual is usually a dress shirt often with a jacket being required, while some may feel workwear meets this, I note you would not get into many clubs after 6PM in such attire.

 

[medhead]

Perhaps you have missed your vocation as a QP manager Medhead? Smart casual is usually a dress shirt often with a jacket being required, while some may feel workwear meets this, I note you would not get into many clubs after 6PM in such attire.

I don't need a vocation, as I already have a profession. Thanks for the career's advice.

There is nothing casual about a jacket either, well maybe in the Australia Club or somewhere like that, but the Qantas club isn't in that league is it. As for getting into clubs after 6pm, rather irrelevant as the QP is not a night club by any stretch of the imagination. (I have never been required to wear a jacket into a club after 6pm either.) People also go there at all hours of the day. Making this about workwear is also an interesting choice of words, I guess that anyone in the QP before 7:30am on weekdays is in workwear. I see plenty of people get of the train at Martin Place in "workwear". I'm more than happy to ban workwear, all workwear including suits. Easy enough to bring a change of clothes.

 

[greenfish]

I totally agree.

And lets not get started with the entitlement to wear anything people want in the lounges just because it is their stipulated site work uniform. Think about it for 2 seconds with common sense and you will agree and stop being selfish.

- So is it OK for a mechanic to wear dirty overalls into the lounges and on flights or are people going to complain?
- How about a sanitary engineer straight after finishing the garbage run?
- Strippers?

It is very simple. Just bring a change of clothes with you. It cannot be that difficult....

I don't think anyone is suggesting that access for people with soiled or dirty clothes of any form should be permitted.

The men in hi-vis are a fixture of the BNE J lounge on a Monday morning. They don't smell. They're not exposing themselves. Their clothes are clean. They're having breakfast at oh my god o'clock, just like those of us wearing suits.

What harm are they doing exactly?

 

[markis10]

I don't need a vocation, as I already have a profession. Thanks for the career's advice.

There is nothing casual about a jacket either, well maybe in the Australia Club or somewhere like that, but the Qantas club isn't in that league is it. As for getting into clubs after 6pm, rather irrelevant as the QP is not a night club by any stretch of the imagination. (I have never been required to wear a jacket into a club after 6pm either.) People also go there at all hours of the day. Making this about workwear is also an interesting choice of words, I guess that anyone in the QP before 7:30am on weekdays is in workwear. I see plenty of people get of the train at Martin Place in "workwear". I'm more than happy to ban workwear, all workwear including suits. Easy enough to bring a change of clothes.

How is the point about what other clubs do in the context of workwear irrelevant to the Qantas CLUB, both are the same when it comes to liquor licence definitions which is where the need for a dress code comes from in the first place AFAIK. In the same context many clubs ban said workwear and provide a definition for those naive about such matters, which encompasses things such as steel capped boots, bib and brace, overalls and safety clothing in general.

Dress codes can be fairly broad and loose when it comes to definitions, which is why QF leave to final word to their managers, they can also be a joke, when the temporary casino on Canberra existed, a tie was required after 6, to go with the sleeved shirt, and they happily let people have a loaner when wearing a polo shirt, the end result being rather ludicrous to look at.

 

[medhead]

How is the point about what other clubs do in the context of workwear irrelevant to the Qantas CLUB, both are the same when it comes to liquor licence definitions which is where the need for a dress code comes from in the first place AFAIK. In the same context many clubs ban said workwear and provide a definition for those naive about such matters, which encompasses things such as steel capped boots, bib and brace, overalls and safety clothing in general.

Dress codes can be fairly broad and loose when it comes to definitions, which is why QF leave to final word to their managers, they can also be a joke, when the temporary casino on Canberra existed, a tie was required after 6, to go with the sleeved shirt, and they happily let people have a loaner when wearing a polo shirt, the end result being rather ludicrous to look at.

Well then if we are talking liquor licensing requirements then a long sleeve shirt, trousers and closed footwearis acceptable, as I already stated. Whether it is a BHP/rio uniform or a Mac Bank uniform as well make no difference.

Personally, I think they should ban selfish, arrogant pigs from the QC, regardless of what they wear!

BTW the irrelevance was due to the time nominated not the name. My QC opens at 5am and closes at about 6:30pm. Dress code elsewhere after 6pm is irrelevant, since it is only a small fraction of the opening hours.

 

[amaroo]

In my travels I've seen many uniformed passengers in the lounges - ranging from military to priests - particularly at the end of WYD, there were more dog collars in the Flounge than crufts. Even seen SES, rural fire fighters, police etc suited up waiting to fly to the nearest disaster zone......the list could go on & on & on.....

Why are the miners selected for special mention Is it the uniform or occupation:!:

 

[rowdy]

In other cultures, hi vis workwear gets preferential treatment. Reserved seating, complimentary lounge access, priority boarding......

 

[beardoc]

It's just dawned on me that I'm sometimes in hi-vis gear when I wear a flight suit (I work for a medical retrieval organisation at times). So it seems like I am one of those people when I am travelling for work (and wear the uniform into the Lounge). I'm intrigued that my uniform might be upsetting to some people.

 

[ajca]

In other cultures, hi vis workwear gets preferential treatment. Reserved seating, complimentary lounge access, priority boarding......

We should leave the miners alone. They're not bothering anyone. It's the people wearing these high-vis outfits who really lower the tone of the Qantas lounges! Especially in certain airports in QLD.

 

[Greggsy]

Just remember its just not miners wearing hi-vis as most industries these have it as a minimum requirement for site (I'm in the oil and gas industry .... It's hi-vis too).

Most often, it's the professional roles such as managers and engineers in the Lounges as their time on site is short, so don't carry extra clothes. The people I see playing up most in lounges and on board are miners and construction workers, fully showered and in civvies.

I'm going to wear reflective stripes on my jeans to match my shirt from now on, just to p1ss the lot of you off.


Greg.

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[DC3]

I'm going to wear reflective stripes on my jeans to match my shirt from now on, just to p1ss the lot of you off.

What would you hope to achieve by doing that???

 

[markis10]

I'm going to wear reflective stripes on my jeans to match my shirt from now on, just to p1ss the lot of you off.


Greg.

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Probably not a bad idea, at least you have a chance to avoid being run over by the folks picking up their loved ones at BNE who don't seem to be aware of anyone else.

 

[beardoc]

Probably not a bad idea, at least you have a chance to avoid being run over by the folks picking up their loved ones at BNE who don't seem to be aware of anyone else.

Hi-viz gear isn't going to help with those people at all. They're going to run you over anyway...

 

[11sjw]

I totally agree.

And lets not get started with the entitlement to wear anything people want in the lounges just because it is their stipulated site work uniform. Think about it for 2 seconds with common sense and you will agree and stop being selfish.

- So is it OK for a mechanic to wear dirty overalls into the lounges and on flights or are people going to complain?
- How about a sanitary engineer straight after finishing the garbage run?
- Strippers?

It is very simple. Just bring a change of clothes with you. It cannot be that difficult....

No one is talking dirty clothes. When these people are travelling TO sites they've just come from home and are as clean as anyone else in the lounge. At some locations in WA they have no lounge when they're flying home (ZNE and PBO) so no one can complain.

Seems like plenty in here are resentful that all these 'bogan miners' have equivalent or better status than they do.

Again if I front up to the QP/J Lounge with work trousers and Hi Vis shirt and I'm allowed in then I'll spring for your first cup of concrete.

 

[medhead]

It is very simple. Just bring a change of clothes with you. It cannot be that difficult....

Good suggestion. In fact, I try to change out of my 'workwear' when I get to a lounge to go home. I usually change into travel pants (lightwieght pants as found at Kathmandu etc.) and a polo shirt. It would seem from this thread that that would be unacceptable as it is not a "dress shirt and jacket".

 

[haggiscat]

People who wear hi vis clothing fall into two categories. They are either too lazy to get changed, or they are trying to make some sort of bizarre reverse-fashion statement (i.e. 'look at me, I wear high vis, I'm in mining/construction therefore important').

If a person has time to access the QANTAS lounges, he has time to change his shirt.

I work outdoors and have quite often driven directly from the airport to work if the scheduling has suited me. In over two years I have never been unable to find a spare moment to change out of my collared shirt and pants and into workgear. I always carry a shirt with me in case it should be required for any purpose, flying or otherwise.

Furthermore, as someone who works outside in filthy garb I always find it particularly refreshing to be able to put on nice clothes and head into the lounge for a drink followed by a civilised flight.

I really resent seeing dirty, sweaty pigs around me in the lounges. It makes me feel like I'm in some B-grade food court, not the biz lounge or Q Club.

There has never been any reason for anyone to wear high vis clothing inside a QANTAS club unless that person is doing construction work in the QANTAS club.

Pack a friggen clean shirt in your grip, ratbags. If I can go from being grotty to well dressed with clean nails in ten minutes, so can you.

Our base beggars are in the poorest things superfluous.

 

[maninblack]

So tired of this.... really is that hard to say no hi vis gear. :evil:

Why should the overall look and feel of a business class lounge feel like a construction site?

Come on QF lets have some standards.

If someone wants to walk around looking like a schmuck what do you care?

But some high vis gear is very trendy, http://superduper.co.za/lucky/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/3525379918_d4e0e6d897.jpg

 

[TonyHancock]

Several times a year I find myself in the Perth QP....and, shock horror, wearing blue cotton work trousers, and a long sleeve cotton shirt which is orange and blue with reflective stripes. Invariably I am on a very early flight to PHE or a mine site. Usually it is a day trip with a return getting me back into PER at about 6 PM. I have no opportunity to change on site so have to travel in my "work" clothes and typically shower and change before taking the red eye to MEL. (More recently I have been flying VA/DJ so have been in The Lounge.)

Having some business in the mining sector is not something I consider makes me important (there are many other things that make me important ), nor do I believe hi vis clothing is making a fashion statement. I am particularly lazy so maybe that is the issue.