Ban the hi vis gear in business lounge!

[DC3]

People who wear hi vis clothing fall into two categories. They are either too lazy to get changed, or they are trying to make some sort of bizarre reverse-fashion statement (i.e. 'look at me, I wear high vis, I'm in mining/construction therefore important') ......

That's not bad. You've made a pretty good point there. You may well be right on the money.

 

[Pleb Status]

People who wear hi vis clothing fall into two categories. They are either too lazy to get changed, or they are trying to make some sort of bizarre reverse-fashion statement (i.e. 'look at me, I wear high vis, I'm in mining/construction therefore important').

If a person has time to access the QANTAS lounges, he has time to change his shirt.

There is a third category. The one which does not care what you think, as what they are wearing has absolutely nothing to do with you.

 

[medhead]

People who wear hi vis clothing fall into two categories. They are either too lazy to get changed, or they are trying to make some sort of bizarre reverse-fashion statement (i.e. 'look at me, I wear high vis, I'm in mining/construction therefore important').

Yeap and suit wearers generally fall into 1 category.

I really resent seeing dirty, sweaty pigs around me in the lounges. It makes me feel like I'm in some B-grade food court, not the biz lounge or Q Club.

Totally agree, I really hate the smelly person in the lounge and also on the plane. Particularly, that suit wearer on my flight on Friday night who thought it was acceptable to drop their guts. Or the non-hi vis wearer 3 weeks ago who jammed their elbows onto the arm rest and into my side for most of the flight.

Getting a pattern here, being a selfish, smelly, foul ratbag has absolutely nothing to do with what people wear. It is absolutely pointless for people to continue to point fingers at one group of people, bordering on ignorant in fact. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

 

[haggiscat]

No, sorry, bright orange workwear shirts with bold reflective stripes are inappropriate things to wear in a joint that does its best to look classy and provide a reasonably tasteful meal service including sit-down dining. There is simply no reason to, and eschewing form for function in this way is just about making a point.

Feel free to keep taking the romance out of flying though, fellas, and keeping it real for all the w*nkers like me who might want to pretend, even for just the afternoon, they aren't on/waiting for a giant Greyhound bus to take them down to the pit.

 

[medhead]

No, sorry, bright orange workwear shirts with bold reflective stripes are inappropriate things to wear in a joint that does its best to look classy and provide a reasonably tasteful meal service including sit-down dining. There is simply no reason to, and eschewing form for function in this way is just about making a point.

Feel free to keep taking the romance out of flying though, fellas, and keeping it real for all the w*nkers like me who might want to pretend, even for just the afternoon, they aren't on/waiting for a giant Greyhound bus to take them down to the pit.

Sit down dining?! Name one qantas club that offers sit down dining in the afternoon or in fact at any time. Going down the pit in the afternoon?! You mean the morning, don't you?

You're welcome to you beer swilling hoard of loud mouthed, rude suits who push their way to the front of the bar and hoover up dozens of party pies in a single bite for your romantic flying experience. But for me behaviour is more important than clothes.


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[Deleted member]

Just remember its just not miners wearing hi-vis as most industries these have it as a minimum requirement for site (I'm in the oil and gas industry .... It's hi-vis too).

Most often, it's the professional roles such as managers and engineers in the Lounges as their time on site is short, so don't carry extra clothes. The people I see playing up most in lounges and on board are miners and construction workers, fully showered and in civvies.

I'm going to wear reflective stripes on my jeans to match my shirt from now on, just to p1ss the lot of you off.


Greg.

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That will look really stylish. I look forward to that. )

 

[Deleted member]

Don't QP lounges have showers etc ?
I seem to recall, Hi Viz not withstanding that a hot shower mid way through travel itinerary is a blessing, not a curse and how difficult is it to carry a spare shirt and jeans.? Even if you still,wear the boots. ( which can't be fun to fly in)

 

[Deleted member]

Sit down dining?! Name one qantas club that offers sit down dining in the afternoon or in fact at any time. Going down the pit in the afternoon?! You mean the morning, don't you?

You're welcome to you beer swilling hoard of loud mouthed, rude suits who push their way to the front of the bar and hoover up dozens of party pies in a single bite for your romantic flying experience. But for me behaviour is more important than clothes.


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While I have never breathed the rarefied air of F. Doesn't the FLounge offer sit down?

 

[markis10]

While I have never breathed the rarefied air of F. Doesn't the FLounge offer sit down?

Yep, and you won't get island dining in the J lounge either unless you sit down.

 

[zachary.august]

I'm a CL and occasionally when flying out of PER there is someone in HI-VIZ. The norm for somewhere regarded as "exclusive" would be something refined and elegant. My point is in a CL, F Lounge, J Lounge or even a QP one should dress neatly and tidily. I understand about the 'no time to change' argument but then don't use the J lounge or QP. I understand you fly a certain amount but it does not fit in with the surroundings and cheapens everything. I have seen hideous behaviour from FIFO passengers and fellow well dressed CLs but the point is that it looks horrible. For example, I went to a prep school in Sydney and we had to wear our full school uniform (coat and tie) and then change into our sport gear and then change back. It is still the same now and I assume that many other schools follow this principe. Is it so much to ask that you don't cheapen the J Lounge or CL? Its quite simple. Ban passengers wearing HI-ViZ clothes from the J lounge and CL and institute restrictions on their access to the QP.

 

[haydensydney]

I give-up trying to explain my position to stuck-up princesses who have nothing better to do than to scoff at peoples attire. This 'aint the '50s people. Move into a resthome.

*exits thread*

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I'm a CL and occasionally when flying out of PER there is someone in HI-VIZ. The norm for somewhere regarded as "exclusive" would be something refined and elegant. My point is in a CL, F Lounge, J Lounge or even a QP one should dress neatly and tidily. I understand about the 'no time to change' argument but then don't use the J lounge or QP. I understand you fly a certain amount but it does not fit in with the surroundings and cheapens everything. I have seen hideous behaviour from FIFO passengers and fellow well dressed CLs but the point is that it looks horrible.

Highlighted area sums it all up!

For example, I went to a prep school in Sydney and we had to wear our full school uniform (coat and tie) and then change into our sport gear and then change back. It is still the same now and I assume that many other schools follow this principe. Is it so much to ask that you don't cheapen the J Lounge or CL? Its quite simple. Ban passengers wearing HI-ViZ clothes from the J lounge and CL and institute restrictions on their access to the QP.

So going on a work day trip, PER-PHE/ZNE/PBO, you should now take a change of clothes just for the QC/CL Lounge? Even if your on a 6am PER departure, clean and fresh, Hi-Viz should be banned?

+1 to Hayden, bye....

 

[maninblack]

Why do people think that the Qantas Club is like some elite private club? Qantas club membership is earned from flying (or paying) and how or why you do that activity varies. It's a transit lounge for working people and travelers doing all sorts of activities and going to all sorts of destinations. From a mining site in WA to a beach in Tahiti or an office in Hong Kong.

Drunks in suits on Friday afternoon are not really a great look either but dominate the QP on a regular basis.

And bring back the cane for those who don't behave

 

[Deleted member]

Why do people think that the Qantas Club is like some elite private club? Qantas club membership is earned from flying (or paying) and how or why you do that activity varies. It's a transit lounge for working people and travelers doing all sorts of activities and going to all sorts of destinations. From a mining site in WA to a beach in Tahiti or an office in Hong Kong.

Drunks in suits on Friday afternoon are not really a great look either but dominate the QP on a regular basis.

And bring back the cane for those who don't behave

Because that's how it's sold !

 

[haggiscat]

Some people on here love to cloak themselves in the old 'Strayan egalitarian spirit, claiming that any request for people to adhere to commonly accepted standards of behaviour or dress is somehow snobbery and requires an urgent and universal defence of the working man.

That is a particularly cliched and drab response to a perfectly legitimate point of view, which is that users of the QANTAS lounges should adhere to social norms and not wear outdoor work clothes whilst lounging.

The original poster is an aesthete, not a snob.

For those who view the lounges as nothing more than a transit cafe, what can anyone say? By your high vis your station shall be known.

Blessed be.

 

[11sjw]

People who wear hi vis clothing fall into two categories. They are either too lazy to get changed, or they are trying to make some sort of bizarre reverse-fashion statement (i.e. 'look at me, I wear high vis, I'm in mining/construction therefore important').

If a person has time to access the QANTAS lounges, he has time to change his shirt.

or they have a 0500-0530 departure and are heading straight to work. Your premise is incorrect and shows little understanding of the setup of FIFO work. The other option is that they're on a day trip. Either way they're pretty much into work as soon as they step off the plane.

I work outdoors and have quite often driven directly from the airport to work if the scheduling has suited me. In over two years I have never been unable to find a spare moment to change out of my collared shirt and pants and into workgear. I always carry a shirt with me in case it should be required for any purpose, flying or otherwise.

Furthermore, as someone who works outside in filthy garb I always find it particularly refreshing to be able to put on nice clothes and head into the lounge for a drink followed by a civilised flight.

I really resent seeing dirty, sweaty pigs around me in the lounges. It makes me feel like I'm in some B-grade food court, not the biz lounge or Q Club.

There has never been any reason for anyone to wear high vis clothing inside a QANTAS club unless that person is doing construction work in the QANTAS club.

Pack a friggen clean shirt in your grip, ratbags. If I can go from being grotty to well dressed with clean nails in ten minutes, so can you.

Our base beggars are in the poorest things superfluous.

Again I don't think the return trips are the issue. Most of those that work the FIFO rosters travel home in 'civvies' and don't have access to a lounge prior to departure. This is the case at some airports in the Pilbara, however I know some do.

Those that are making daytrips may or may not change prior to boarding to come home. Personally, I do as I can usually squeeze 45min in for a swim and shower prior to departing (note to self don't travel to the Pilbara on Tuesdays, pools are closed). To describe these people as 'dirty sweaty pigs' is a bit of a joke, daytrippers tend not to be doing any manual work and will attend a meeting or two and spend an hour or two inspecting their site. Generally this is not going to make them sweat or stink profusely.

 

[medhead]

This has nothing to do with defending the working man. This has to do with misguided souls who think they can judge the character of people by the clothes they wear. The clear implication throughout this thread is that hi viz wearers are undesirable.

The undesirables are boorish oafs wearing suits. If we are going to ban one type of neat and tidy workwear then ban all types of work wear including stinking suit wearing salarymen.

While I have never breathed the rarefied air of F. Doesn't the FLounge offer sit down?

Right and exactly how many flights to mine sites leave from the international terminal. Basically zero need to use this lounge and be in hi viz gear. Not to mention it isn't a Qantas Club.

Yep, and you won't get island dining in the J lounge either unless you sit down.

Same comments apply. J lounge is not a qantas club. I'd be extremely surprised if there was any more than a limited demand for the lounge by hi viz wearers during the limited hours of operation of island dining. In fact I can't remember seeing any such clothing in the Sydney J lounge.

I'm a CL and occasionally when flying out of PER there is someone in HI-VIZ.

Back in the day I reckon I can remember one Hugh Morgan flying to a site in Hi Viz. I'd love to hear you tell him to get out of the CL.


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[maninblack]

I have quite often seen some pretty dodgy looking rock n' roll types in the F lounge too, they certainly weren't wearing Ralph Lauren.

 

[markis10]

Same comments apply. J lounge is not a qantas club. I'd be extremely surprised if there was any more than a limited demand for the lounge by hi viz wearers during the limited hours of operation of island dining. In fact I can't remember seeing any such clothing in the Sydney J lounge.

The business lounge is a "qantas club lounge" (and the subjec tof this topic), appears in the Qantas club section under lounge access (by comparison the JQ lounges dont) and operates under the same liquor licence as the QP, obviously in Melbourne you need to walk through one to get to the other. I am not surprised you dont see too much Hi Vis in Sydney at any time, different story at BNE.

http://www.olgr.qld.gov.au/resources/index.php/liquor/details/92520/pdf

 

[SeatBackForward]

If the suits are smart, then there clearly is a market segment that can cater to "Non-hi -Viz Lounges" at Perth. C'mon all you clever business minded folk, get your act together!
Other aiports furnish non-airline aligned lounges, why not PER?

BTW, I don't wear Hi-Viz, and the times I do have to wear them, I find them entirely uncomfortable and more than happy to get out of them.