Crew Showed MA15+ Movie to all PAX on QF59

[MarkD]

Hmmm. Slow news day today. Morale police all out in force it seems. Next time you go outside your door, plug your ears and put on the eye shade.

 

[p--and--t]

there’s a bit of hyperventilating going on here.

Ah, you mean like many (most) of AFF threads?

 

[gtrod]

I’d argue every pax is either of age, or has adult supervision.

The adults need to be consenting to supervise which clearly some weren't.

It's also not just 12-14 year olds. Unaccompanied minors travel from 6 on their own with basic supervision from flight attendants. Kids can also travel together without parents so long as one is aged 15+, but that sibling can't give consent for the film.

I've made use of both unaccompanied bookings and also sent kids on their own when one was over 15. I don't think it's uncommon at all.

 

[Lynda2475]

The flight was international, you have to be at least 12 to fly QFi as an unaccompanied minorr.

 

[justinbrett]

The flight was international, you have to be at least 12 to fly QFi as an unaccompanied minorr.

They can but the airline assumes the role of guardian. That’s why you have to pay. Either someone is responsible for the child or the parent has agreed for the child to be unaccompanied.

The adults need to be consenting to supervise which clearly some weren't.

And I’m sure they advised the crew which is why the film was turned off.

Again, the “court” (whatever hypothetical jurisdiction would take on a case like this) would not distinguish between what a child could access via the IFE interface or whether the film was screened. Either way the film was made available to the child.

There has to be some common sense applied here. How many decades has personal IFE existed? Why is it now suddenly a problem, only after news blatantly mis-report it as literal cough being screened? Again, this wouldn’t have even made the news if the truth was reported from the get go.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The flight was international, you have to be at least 12 to fly QFi as an unaccompanied minorr.

According to the QF website children can between 5 and 11 to qualify for travel as an unaccompanied minor on international flights of 6 hours or longer.

There are some exclusions like connections longer than 4 hours.

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-info/children/unaccompanied.html#ages-flight-restriction-and-fees

 

[gtrod]

There has to be some common sense applied here. How many decades has personal IFE existed?

Airline IFE typically has a Kids mode and once enabled it can't be disabled except by a FA.

Why is it now suddenly a problem, only after news blatantly mis-report it as literal cough being screened?

Most would consider the language shown to be extremely graphic. Would you really want to be explaining to a primary school kid why the blokes cough is so hard and throbbing. Or why the girl is dripping wet?

Note that other jurisdictions have rated the movie R primarily because of the extremely graphic language.

You can see a summary of the film as it relates to kids with the language rated 10/10:

Daddio [2023] [R] - 8.2.10 | Parents' Guide & Review | Kids-In-Mind.com

On a cab ride home from JFK airport, a woman (Dakota Johnson) has an intense conversation with her cab driver (Sean Penn) about their lives and the significant relationships in them. Also with Marcos A. Gonzalez. Directed by Christy Hall. One line of dialogue is spoken in Spanish without...

kids-in-mind.com

 

[justinbrett]

Airline IFE typically has a Kids mode and once enabled it can't be disabled except by a FA.

As far as I’m aware the QF system is only restricted if proactively set by the pax. Pax over 12 unaccompanied are treated the same as any other pax so this would not be set for them. The only extra service they get (classed as “Young Passengers”) is assistance during flight disruptions. Nothing on board, no supervision.

Your confusion with classifications isn’t helping. Every country has a different system and to say some classify it as R doesn’t mean anything. The US classification of R is equivalent to our MA15.

 

[Quickstatus]

Airline IFE typically has a Kids mode and once enabled it can't be disabled except by a FA.

There are kids menu in the IFE but thats all. I have not seen parental lock capability
If there is a lockout, it would be available to CC only but I have not seen it.

Can you imagine individual IFE getting locked out which is not unlocked at end of the flight and the subsequent CC then have to fix for the subsequent flight. No

 

[RooFlyer]

but why couldn't you just turn screen off if you didn't want to watch?

They couldn’t. That’s the main issue of the whole thread.

 

[justinbrett]

I think the only way forward from here is to ban children from flying.