Malaysia Airlines to join Oneworld alliance

[Mwenenzi]

The earn rates for QFF on flying MH is the worst! It's much better the other way around. I think it's QF's attempt at trying to halt the mad rush of QFFers from using MH for travel between Australia and the UK/Europe when they are trying to promote their EK tie-up.

Many punters have no interest in miles/SC. That includes some of my work colleges who frequently travel domestically & internationally. (e,g. 2 trips Aus to Eu in J and did not earn a mile !!) In Y class $$ is king for many. They are SLC after all [self loading cargo]l

We are the 5% who do care. That's why we read AFF

 

[wingspan]

If you are an AA flyer: Malaysia Airlines | American Airlines

Topbonus are also offering a similar deal... and I imagine some others too?

 

[markis10]

Topbonus are also offering a similar deal... and I imagine some others too?

Note that some codes are not earners including Z which I think is discount business.

 

[wingspan]

Topbonus are also offering a similar deal... and I imagine some others too?

Such as Qantas: Frequent Flyer - Member Specials

 

[cmon0005]

I watched the entire press conference live, Alan made a big speech about how important the alliance was but also that forming partnerships outside the alliance was a good thing too. (read EK/QF).
He seemed forced in saying how good the MH team were to work with during implementation.
Then during the photos Alan initiated one of those awkward twisted arm 3 way handshakes between himself, MH's AJ and Bruce OW CEO.

 

[Flying Fox]

Here is a pic of a One World MH Painted aircraft

Photos: Airbus A330-323X Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

 

[Stoopidsteve]

Note that some codes are not earners including Z which I think is discount business.

CDJZ earns .75 points or 1.5 points/mile depending on route

 

[markis10]

CDJZ earns .75 points or 1.5 points/mile depending on route

On topbonus?? On AA Z is a non earner despite being J.

 

[Isochronous]

CDJZ earns .75 points or 1.5 points/mile depending on route

As long as I still get J SCs I'm happy to fly MH.

 

[markis10]

As long as I still get J SCs I'm happy to fly MH.

Thats where the benefit is as a QFF as I see it, of course I have been holding off pulling the trigger on a few Z fares for an trip soon to confirm they would be earning!

 

[defurax]

On topbonus?? On AA Z is a non earner despite being J.

So basically AA finds that Z class on MH is too cheap to deserve any miles, but somehow Qantas is happy to give First class SCs and points on ultra cheap AA KUPP... You got to love these Oneworld earning tables... :shock:

 

[Danger]

KUL is not showing in the list of destinations for QF awards.

 

[markis10]

KUL is not showing in the list of destinations for QF awards.

They take a while to kick in, OOL did !

 

[PLC]

KUL is not showing in the list of destinations for QF awards.

It was earlier for ASAs. The only problem was a JASA to KUL was about the same as a FASA to LHR!!!!!!

 

[YQY]

I watched the entire press conference live, Alan made a big speech about how important the alliance was but also that forming partnerships outside the alliance was a good thing too. (read EK/QF).
He seemed forced in saying how good the MH team were to work with during implementation.
Then during the photos Alan initiated one of those awkward twisted arm 3 way handshakes between himself, MH's AJ and Bruce OW CEO.

During the Q&A, Bruce Ashby said the main difference between *A and OW, was that OW allowed members to have partnerships with Airlines outside OW, while looking at Alan Joyce.

That seemed contrary to the recently announced partnership between CX and NZ!

 

[Awesom Andy]

Had a look at earnings on the MH side, and they have a separate earning table for Enrich members travelling on QF flights to NZ, AU, SIN, UK, and Europe too, with points earning similar to the QF table. It goes both ways, I suppose.

 

[anat0l]

During the Q&A, Bruce Ashby said the main difference between *A and OW, was that OW allowed members to have partnerships with Airlines outside OW, while looking at Alan Joyce.

That seemed contrary to the recently announced partnership between CX and NZ!

With alliances, of course everyone can have relationships with other airlines outside the alliances.

The main stickler in those non-alliance partnerships are the lack of status credits (or equivalent status currency), i.e. you can earn redeemable points, but not count towards status (also depends on characteristics like marketing carrier; here, ow is slightly more lassies-faire than *A). Some exceptions abound, yes......

Had a look at earnings on the MH side, and they have a separate earning table for Enrich members travelling on QF flights to NZ, AU, SIN, UK, and Europe too, with points earning similar to the QF table. It goes both ways, I suppose.

Tit for tat indeed.

Another tit for tat to note is that the deepest discount Economy fares on both carriers do not earn on the other. O is a prime example (on both; MH's sales fares are typically on O). Not sure what class MH domestic fares typically book into; not even sure which routes are the cheapest (my mum is from KBR but the fares there are quite variable; admittedly they are almost always cheaper when booked separate to the MH fare between AUS and MY).

 

[JohnK]

We are the 5% who do care. That's why we read AFF

Do you think it is as high as 5%? I do not know anyone on AFF who I have not met on AFF. And with ~30,000 AFF members I think we are a much smaller, insiginificant, proportion of travellers.

 

[extracta]

We are the 5% who do care. That's why we read AFF

I do not care..... I believe that Frequent Flyer programs are a trap designed to trap the unwary. There are exceptions of course and there are people who do actually benefit from a FF scheme. Mainly people who fly a lot at other peoples expense. And of course people who take advantage of low cost points such as credit cards and USDM/Lifemiles.

The main loser in the FF programs are the people who remain loyal to a particular airline at all cost due to their FF membership. Leaving these people unable to take advantage of good deals that are outside of their chosen sphere of airline travel. They will use all sorts of excuses to justify this of course.

 

[yohy?!]

The main loser in the FF programs are the people who remain loyal to a particular airline at all cost due to their FF membership. Leaving these people unable to take advantage of good deals that are outside of their chosen sphere of airline travel. They will use all sorts of excuses to justify this of course.

It's probably fair to say this is the 99% of FF members, with AFF the other 1% that endeavour to extract maximum value from their FFP