NBN Discussion

[Quickstatus]

Jindabyne friend whose 100/40 FTTN I used to upload an entire hard drive to the cloud is giving ABB a whirl now that 12 month Telstra NBN contract is completed.

 

[drron]

We still like ABB.

 

[Quickstatus]

We still like ABB.

Do you have a plan with the fastest possible speed?

 

[Comoman]

Do you have a plan with the fastest possible speed?

Both mine are 100/40

 

[Quickstatus]

Both mine are 100/40

What do you need 100/40 for?

 

[Comoman]

What do you need 100/40 for?

3 kids Netflixing in UHD and I need the upload for work purposes.

 

[Blinky]

That is almost exactly my experience. 4km from the exchange, 2mps download, with Netflix, Foxtel and computer, glacial with adsl2+. It took overnight to download a movie on the latest Foxtel box. Purchased NBN with my current provider Optus for the same price. 50mps download. Very happy.

Oops, tried to respond to an earlier post. Sorry. But still happy.

 

[moa999]

Aussie Broadband gets good reviews an Whirlpool, as does Telstra generally.

I'm currently with a smaller company Telecube (who uses Vocus for transit) on a 25/5 plan. On most POIs they are pretty good + they don't offer unlimited so don't have massive users stealing your bandwidth.

Check out the Whirlpool - Other Broadband forum for special pricing

 

[Quickstatus]

3 kids Netflixing in UHD and I need the upload for work purposes.

Haha. How many 4K TV you got?.
One of the benefits of 1-3Mbps ADSL is I don’t need to get expensive TV. Still got Standard HD

 

[Quickstatus]

Aussie Broadband gets good reviews an Whirlpool, as does Telstra generally.

I'm currently with a smaller company Telecube (who uses Vocus for transit) on a 25/5 plan. On most POIs they are pretty good + they don't offer unlimited so don't have massive users stealing your bandwidth.

Check out the Whirlpool - Other Broadband forum for special pricing

I don’t have NBN but like ABB for its no nonsense plans, Aussie call centre, their own infrastructure, and published POI CVC
I’ll check out Tcube.

Here is the CVC graph for my POI 2/6/18. The top blue line is the 1200Mbps CVC currently allocated to the POI by ABB

 

[Paddy55]

Can't speak highly enough about ABB.
Was on Telstra FTTN and over the two weeks the performance deteriorated, I had a 2 day outage, and their offshore support was borderline incompetent.
Switched to ABB and they have lived up to expectations and support (onshore) has been superb.

 

[Quickstatus]

My NBN MTM planning is still holding as FTTC after being swopped from FW. Dec 2019

I really don’t want to go back to FW

 

[Buzzard]

Aussie Broadband

Aussie Broadband is best?

I have pre ordered with Aussie, the 50Mbps plan. Not much more expensive than the 25 plan and for me it's a tactical move. If I don't get over 25 I'll be onto the complaints department. I figured that if I ordered the 25 plan and got something substantially slower there could be lots of excuses as to why I'm not getting full speed.

 

[Quickstatus]

I have pre ordered with Aussie, the 50Mbps plan. Not much more expensive than the 25 plan and for me it's a tactical move. If I don't get over 25 I'll be onto the complaints department. I figured that if I ordered the 25 plan and got something substantially slower there could be lots of excuses as to why I'm not getting full speed.

Apparently they will automatically put you to a lower plan if your connection does not support more than 25.

 

[Buzzard]

Apparently they will automatically put you to a lower plan if your connection does not support more than 25.

That's interesting.

 

[Quickstatus]

That's interesting.

Have you checked the condition of your copper?
Excerpt from Aussie broadband FAQ:

 

[Buzzard]

No, condition of copper not checked.

 

[Quickstatus]

Might help optimise eventual speed.

 

[TheRealTMA]

No, condition of copper not checked.

Someone remind me again why we are still using copper?

 

[Quickstatus]

Because it is the cheapest and quickest build which also achieves a modest return on invested capital.

Rudd’s megalomaniac thought bubble to start off
Swan wanted to show Labor it could get a budget surplus - so created this off the books even though the Govt borrowed the capital so that it would not affect the budget position.

The megalomania continued when everyone told Rudd it could not be done at that price and in that time frame. Rudd knew better so when no private partners came forward he went it alone and invest $43bil and build by 2017.

NBN starts and starts building fibre in Labor held or marginal electorates - pork barrelling.

Then Turnbull thinks he can build cheaper and faster because he is a banker smarter than everyone else. So he changes the goalposts because the poison pill from Rudd/Swan/Conroy was that the mandated ROIC return on invested capital was unachiveable.

But Turnbull is smart so he makes it work by using MTM - copper and HFC in many places bringing the cost way lower and quicker, And the govt wanted to show it was superior economic managers so Hockey and then ScoMo were desperate to keep it off the books as well. So the Enterprise model had to show it was able to achieve an ROIC.

The other side of the ROIC is what the consumers were prepared to pay. When it comes to internet people did not like spending more than $70-80 generally. The expectations were set - price squeeze on one end and fast internet available now on the other. No one wanted to wait years - we want it fast cheap and now!.

So why copper?. 2 reasons:

1)politicians promised a Rolls Royce and delivered a Corolla which is what you always get when politicians dream up a project.
2)people wanted fast and cheap internet and they did not want to pay more than what they were paying now, They wanted a Rolls Royce for the price of a Corolla. Who wouldn’t. Even now when some could get an Audi by paying more they still refused and only paid a Corolla price