Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

[junbugging]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I could be wrong, I was once before.
I never made the cut last year so do not have any actual experience of the process but my understanding is that you need a minimum balance of 3k in the Aquire Acct to be able to transfer & I think we are all in agreement on that. I also understood that before any points transfer from the "orange" Pending acct into the "grey" Aquire acct the minimum orange "Pending" balance should be 20,000pts.
This wine purchase will increase your total Aquire points but not your Pending acct which can only increase by completing a flight. e.g. In my case I will have 2k + 5k (wine) = 7k points but still only 14,800 Pending points.

Agreed. Sorry, I got the wrong OP

And just incidentally, my Australia-based partner lost around 7,000 pending points upon the end-April renewal.

 

[prozac]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

Agreed. Sorry, I got the wrong OP

And just incidentally, my Australia-based partner lost around 7,000 pending points upon the end-April renewal.

It's like loosing a pet.

 

[Steady]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

Businesses are allowed to fly consultants to do an audit or inspection etc and earn Aquire points, the consultant is a contractor, not an employee.

It it pains me to hear of people loosing pending points unnecessarily

 

[junbugging]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

Businesses are allowed to fly consultants to do an audit or inspection etc and earn Aquire points, the consultant is a contractor, not an employee.

It it pains me to hear of people loosing pending points unnecessarily

My own conclusion was just that the program isn't worth bothering with for people in our specific situation. Might change once I'm back in Australia full-time.

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

So just thinking aloud...you need a minimum 3,000pts to transfer to your QFF acct? I have just the 2k bonus pts Aquire gave me last year, so this would enable me to transfer 7k pts across?

I have just 14,800pts in my Pending acct and may have to watch those expire at the end of my member year in August as I do not have any flights planned before then. This bonus would at least allow me to adopt those 2,000 orphans.

Think laterally my friend........ Do you know anyone else maybe booking a flight who you can provide your ABN number to ??
Then share the points
My Dad always told me that half the cake beats none of it any day of the week

 

[prozac]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

Think laterally my friend........ Do you know anyone else maybe booking a flight who you can provide your ABN number to ??
Then share the points
My Dad always told me that half the cake beats none of it any day of the week

There's a thought. No.
My friends all think I am scamming them.

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

There's a thought. No.
My friends all think I am scamming them.

Why not ask someone else to PM you and see what you can work out
all AFF's are gentlemen and ladies of the utmost integrity so trust should not be an issue
I'd offer but I'm batting to get 20,000 Aquire points myself and should make it before my year is up

 

[prozac]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

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I'd offer but I'm batting to get 20,000 Aquire points myself and should make it before my year is up

I'd think the average AFFer is probably battling as well sumthin.

 

[Steady]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I'd think the average AFFer is probably battling as well sumthin.

Why see that as an issue?

3 X businesses earning 7k working together, or 4 Earning 5k, 5 Earning 4K etc or (or 20 - I'm sure there is an AFF network of ABN holders who could help each other)

 

[junbugging]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

3 X businesses earning 7k working together, or 4 Earning 5k, 5 Earning 4K etc or (or 20 - I'm sure there is an AFF network of ABN holders who could help each other)

Sounds like diminishing returns to going against at least the spirit of the rules.

 

[Steady]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

Sounds like diminishing returns to going against at least the spirit of the rules.

What is the spirit of the rules for the Aquire program?

I understand it is there to encourage businesses to buy QF flights (instead of someone else's) by awarding points to the business for the flights they pay for.

I can see that I look at it differently then most others as I have hinted collaboration a few times over the last 2 years and it has been met with similar replies.

 

[junbugging]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I understand it is there to encourage businesses to buy QF flights (instead of someone else's) by awarding points to the business for the flights they pay for.

Yep, that's pretty much it. Seems obvious to me, but like you said, people obviously view things differently.

 

[medhead]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

Businesses are allowed to fly consultants to do an audit or inspection etc and earn Aquire points, the consultant is a contractor, not an employee.

It it pains me to hear of people loosing pending points unnecessarily

I was going to write a comment about this in light of my recollection that the wording was something like 'a person flying for your business', which is subtly different to being an employee. I just went to find that wording on the Aquire website, and I can't find it. :shock:
I'm not sure but this seems to suggest just about anyone can earn Aquire points for any business. Or perhaps that it wouldn't be against the spirit of the program. I quick review of the T&Cs did revel any limitation based on employment. Perhaps I missed it.

 

[junbugging]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I guess to me it just seems like a fair bit of hassle for less than 10,000 points assuming an even split with the business owner and inability to make 20,000 points on your own. I personally would rather just buy my dad a couple of cases of wine when there's a good deal on. But I understand the desire to leave no flight fully tapped/exploited.

 

[medhead]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I guess to me it just seems like a fair bit of hassle for less than 10,000 points assuming an even split with the business owner and inability to make 20,000 points on your own. I personally would rather just buy my dad a couple of cases of wine when there's a good deal on. But I understand the desire to leave no flight fully tapped/exploited.

Maybe. We all have to make our own decisions.
I think I've found the 10% Aquire fares of more value. I'd see it working more along the lines of getting back the points that you've contributed to the account rather than splitting.
The wine isn't going to trigger the pending points balance, of course.

I found it more interesting that I couldn't find that previous implied restriction of the flights being for business purposes.

 

[Steady]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I found it more interesting that I couldn't find that previous implied restriction of the flights being for business purposes.

7.1 Subject to the exclusions, limitations and other conditions specified in this clause 7, clause 8 and the Airline Earn Table, Members earn Aquire Points, at the applicable rate specified in the Airline Earn Table or in any special offer, for air travel booked and paid for by the Member and travelled by their Aquire Flyers for the Member's business purposes.

FAQ's
To earn Aquire Points on flights and access Aquire Flight Deals, you must be travelling for a registered Aquire Member for business purposes.
The following types of travel are not eligible to earn Aquire Points or access Aquire Flight Deals:

• leisure travel
• flights booked before your business became an Aquire Member
• group travel
• discounted airfares for example, children or infant fares, corporate discounts

Benefit Earner means (except as may otherwise be defined in the applicable Reward Scheme terms and conditions) an owner, director, officer, employee, contractor, consultant, partner or principal of the Member who may earn Aquire Benefits for the Member under these Terms and Conditions or the relevant Reward Scheme;

Aquire Flyer means a QFF Program member who is an owner, director, officer, employee, contractor, consultant, partner or principal of the Member and is a Benefit Earner;

 

[junbugging]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

The wine isn't going to trigger the pending points balance, of course.

Sorry, that was just a throwaway line of no real relevance to Aquire.

All I can see of possible relevance is the following. Plenty of wiggle room, obviously.

Benefit Earner means (except as may otherwise be defined in the applicable Reward Scheme terms and conditions) an owner, director, officer, employee, contractor, consultant, partner or principal of the Member who may earn Aquire Benefits for the Member under these Terms and Conditions or the relevant Reward Scheme

6.1 Members are not entitled to claim Aquire Points or purchase Aquire Flight Deals under the Airline Reward Scheme for (...) other travel that does not have a business purpose relating to trade or commerce or the supply of goods or services.

7.1 (...) air travel booked and paid for by the Member and travelled by their Aquire Flyers for the Member's business purposes.

10.1 Qantas reserves the right to terminate a Member's participation in the Airline Reward Scheme or withhold or cancel Aquire Points if a Member or any of the Member's Aquire Flyers has attempted to claim Aquire Points or purchase Aquire Flight Deals to which they were not entitled or attempted to redeem Aquire Points for Qantas Points when they were not entitled to do so.

 

[medhead]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I knew I just had to look harder.

Really only 7.1 is the sticking point.

 

[Steady]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

I am not suggesting that flights shouldn't be for business purposes - that would be in conflict with the T&C's - just that business purposes are endless and not limited to employees. I fly lots of people lots of places for lots of different business purposes. There is no question that some of these people would show up on more than one Aquire members account - even if they have their own.

Consultants/contractors (mentors/personal couriers or anybody else who is providing a service) usually charge me cost plus a handling fee if they arrange their own flights - if I do it for them I save a nominal 10% handling and earn Aquire points.

 

[medhead]

re: Qantas launches "Aquire" business frequent flyer program.

Just received with my May points balance email - for those who like 5K bonus Aquire points for $234 (and a dozed mixed wine thrown in by QF epiQure): http://buff.ly/1szxd7O

Has anyone ordered this offer? Exactly where do I add the ABN, I can't see anywhere obvious. besides perhaps the second line of the address.
Probably an academic Questions as I've just noticed the 7 June cut off.