QF A380 to DFW; QF9/10 retiming

[amaroo]

Like to add my vote for this being a great move. Bit of a downer with the knock on effect with HKG however, most would probably fly CX anyway.

 

[bPeteb]

Yep, but have now lost the PE down to Sydney. Would much prefer to be on an A380 than a 744 for SYD-HKG. It was already 744 back and I've put in for J upgrade for that flight back as it's overnight. I'm making the most of my gold status while I've got it by trying my luck at upgrades.

I'd accepted the SYD-BNE leg as Y but now to find it's Y in both directions it's a bit rude.

 

[eastwest101]

I second amaroo's comments, its good to see QFi finally doing something about their laughable aircraft utilization, and using aircraft more efficiently by having them up in the air making some revenue. At least it looks like they are trying to make things work with what they have got now.

Now for the other things that were previosly consigned to the "too hard" basket to be looked at, staff engagement and efficiencies, their hard products and some asian bits of the JQ operation.....

 

[redslert]

Does the SYD->DFW flight still land at the same time as current so that we can make connections?

 

[Mr_Orange]

Yep, but have now lost the PE down to Sydney. Would much prefer to be on an A380 than a 744 for SYD-HKG. It was already 744 back and I've put in for J upgrade for that flight back as it's overnight. I'm making the most of my gold status while I've got it by trying my luck at upgrades.

I'd accepted the SYD-BNE leg as Y but now to find it's Y in both directions it's a bit rude.

Since you would have been booked into one of the T, R or W fare buckets on QF8, an upgrade to J is only 5000 pts per person . For the return, i'll bet you're in the B fare bucket, which is also 5000 points to upgrade. Then you don't need to fly whY at all. Remember that domestic upgrades are confirmed instantly.

 

[mjgriffo]

Hi Red Roo,

We are booked 13/11 QF8 BNE - SYD, QF127 SYD - HKG and returning 18/11 QF128 HKG - SYD arriving 19/11 - at what stage are QF likely to contact us to arrange alternative flights BNE - SYD (and will we be upgraded to J on the now-domestic flight), and are you able to provide some indication around the possible QF127 a/c change on 13/11?

We are booked premium economy all the way (with requested upgrades to J), as others have mentioned it will be disappointing if we picked an a380 flight specifically for the product, only for it to be replaced with the older 747.

Thanks in advance.

 

[smit0847]

We are booked 13/11 QF8 BNE - SYD, QF127 SYD - HKG and returning 18/11 QF128 HKG - SYD arriving 19/11 - at what stage are QF likely to contact us to arrange alternative flights BNE - SYD (and will we be upgraded to J on the now-domestic flight)

what do you think?

 

[smit0847]

Like to add my vote for this being a great move. Bit of a downer with the knock on effect with HKG however, most would probably fly CX anyway.

It does feel like SYD-HKG is going to be the loser out of these changes! I would have thought QF would put a refurbed 747 on SYD-HKG the days where its a non A380. Sure it wouldnt have F but at least the Y, Y+ and J product would be identical across all flights of the week.

 

[mjgriffo]

what do you think?

Dunno Smit0847, that's why I asked.

Considering I booked the flight specifically because it had PE and I paid for that PE leg, it now seems a legitimate question to ask considering none of the alternatives have PE. I guess the other alternative might be a refund or compensation for the decreased service level.

I'm not being argumentative - just asking what I think are valid questions...

 

[smit0847]

Dunno Smit0847, that's why I asked.

Considering I booked the flight specifically because it had PE and I paid for that PE leg, it now seems a legitimate question to ask considering none of the alternatives have PE. I guess the other alternative might be a refund or compensation for the decreased service level.

I'm not being argumentative - just asking what I think are valid questions...

I expect you will either be offered a downgrade to Y for the dom leg or a refund if that is not suitable. Given how many people will need to be reacommodated it's extremely unlikely you'll be upgraded to J.

What is the connection time in SYD anyway? I understand QF8 is CONSTANTLY late on the BNE-SYD leg and that theres a good chance you'd get moved to a normal dom flight (and be seated in Y) just so you dont miss your SYD-HKG flight.

QF will be contacting affected pax in due course - you cant expect Red Roo to contact you the day after the announcement just because you want a free upgrade.

 

[mjgriffo]

what do you think?

I expect you will either be offered a downgrade to Y for the dom leg or a refund if that is not suitable. Given how many people will need to be reacommodated it's extremely unlikely you'll be upgraded to J.

What is the connection time in SYD anyway? I understand QF8 is CONSTANTLY late on the BNE-SYD leg and that theres a good chance you'd get moved to a normal dom flight (and be seated in Y) just so you dont miss your SYD-HKG flight.

QF will be contacting affected pax in due course - you cant expect Red Roo to contact you the day after the announcement just because you want a free upgrade.

Of course not, and I wasn't expecting Red Roo to do so - you might note that my original question was around "at what stage are QF likely to contact us".

Likewise, although QF8 was earmarked as a regularly poor on-time performer, arrival times into BNE have improved considerably , usually arriving early. I've made similar connections recently that haven't caused problems.

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Hi
First post!

I need some advice: have booked an AA award BNE-MEL-LHR return for next March/April with the old timings in mind. Obviously we now have the choose of sending all day in the Flounge (if it's open) or looking for award seats on a later flight from BNE to reduce connection time. But coming home, we'll land in MEL too late to get a connecting flight home. I had already booked the 9am MEL-BNE flight assuming a 5:10am arrival into MEL, and now we'll be arriving late the night before, I assume (hope) I can keep that flight booking and just go to a hotel near the airport for the night.

Does anyone know if this is what happens with overnight connections, and whether the fact that it's an award booking makes any difference? Also, will our checked luggage remain at the airport overnight? I know this is how JAL does their overnight connections at NRT en route to Europe.

If anyone knows I'd appreciate some help.

Thanks

You would need to collect your bags in MEL when you clear customs then take the bags with you to your overnight accommodation. You would then check the bags in the next day when you get back to the airport as they cannot be stored overnight at the airport.

Thats the current timetable, they will need to change more to fit it all in. Be interesting to see how it all pans out, especially with the wing spar fatigue checks not being mandated for the 6 yearly inspections.

On a more practical note to frequent flyers, goodbye to the last tag flight, even if it was from BNE.

Sounds like a good excuse for a farewell 'do' of some kind to mark the end of an era.

How bout a 'world-class' service to Hawaii

Why is the DFW service only 6 days? Run out of aircraft?

What about a 744 BNE/HNL/SFO vv service departing in the am (JQ & HA are red-eye flights), arriving HNL late pm then continuing on to SFO late pm arriving in SFO the next morning.

Even a 744 BNE/HNL/DFW vv service would be good. Even a 333 with Skybed Mk2 would be better than only having JQ as an option ex BNE.

I am interested to know what lounge will be provided from customers travelling in First on this route. From a ground services stand point, Los Angeles has a far better premium traveller proposition with a fantastic First Host team and (soon to be) amazing lounges.

Anyone who's got an Amex Platinum card can use the Centurion Lounge opp gate D17 close to where the current QF8 (& BA) depart from. Wonder which gate numbers are the new improved A380 capable ones?

 

[ABC1]

Wonder which gate numbers are the new improved A380 capable ones?[/QUOTE]

Emirates and Qantas will use Terminal D’s gates 15 and 16, now being remodeled to handle the world’s largest passenger jet.

 

[JessicaTam]

Whilst I like the change of schedule to QF9/10, I am disappointed for BNE that they have lost an international flight (even if only one-way).

[tin foil hat]

Lets hope BNE is not going the way of ADL and PER.

[/tin foil hat]

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Whilst I like the change of schedule to QF9/10, I am disappointed for BNE that they have lost an international flight (even if only one-way).

[tin foil hat]

Lets hope BNE is not going the way of ADL and PER.

[/tin foil hat]

It was certainly handy for QLDers travelling internationally ex SYD on QF intl flights to PVG/JNB/DFW/MNL/ZQN & AC to YVR allowing them to get Customs formalities out of the way in BNE plus eliminating the need to change terminals in SYD.

C'est la vie.

 

[RooFlyer]

<snip>

What about a 744 BNE/HNL/SFO vv service departing in the am (JQ & HA are red-eye flights), arriving HNL late pm then continuing on to SFO late pm arriving in SFO the next morning.

<snip>

Fair dinkum, if that was available, I'd take it at least 2 to 3 times a year on my way to Canada, as a variation on going via HKG and as a definite preference to via the LAX toilet.

 

[markis10]

Whilst I like the change of schedule to QF9/10, I am disappointed for BNE that they have lost an international flight (even if only one-way).

[tin foil hat]

Lets hope BNE is not going the way of ADL and PER.

[/tin foil hat]

I think we will have to cancel your visa waiver for entry into Queensland for having such audacity to suggest that might be the outcome of Qantas's law of diminishing returns :mrgreen:

 

[JessicaTam]

I think we will have to cancel your visa waiver for entry into Queensland for having such audacity to suggest that might be the outcome of Qantas's law of diminishing returns :mrgreen:

It wasn't me, just someone who looked like me!

 

[Mattg]

It wasn't me, just someone who looked like me!

Just thought I would point out that the new QF9/10 timings will be slightly different when daylight savings kicks in.
QF9 will depart MEL at 23:35, arrive in DXB at 06:45 the next day and arrive in LHR at 12:25.

As far as I can see the return QF10 hasn't been updated yet.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I tried to change an ASA today as the new dep time from LHR of QF10 isn't suitable on the date I want to travel. The new time was showing on MMB along with accept or call. I asked to be put on QF 2 same day and she stated it wasn't available, she then asked for a release of a P seat on QF2 and this was also rejected. The best she could do was change the dep to the next day QF10.
I was under the impression that ASA's were treated as revenue fares for re-booking but it seems this isn't the case