QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D, Int. bullhead & Dom. Exit

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This kind of purple?

That's the one.

One of the frustrating aspects of bulkhead seats is that they are not all created equal, even on the same plane. My suspicion is that QF's are amongst the smallest in the industry, and TG's towards the other end of the scale. But I doubt any pax has ever measured them.

I particularly avoid central bulkheads because there's no way you can win there - if they have adequate space then other pax will use it as a thoroughfare. And the only way they can't do that is if you have no space !

BTW, I hope that was an internal Thailand flight to/from the beach. Otherwise .. thongs indeed in the opposite exit row ! ;)
 
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One of the frustrating aspects of bulkhead seats is that they are not all created equal, even on the same plane. My suspicion is that QF's are amongst the smallest in the industry, and TG's towards the other end of the scale. But I doubt any pax has ever measured them.
Give me bulkhead any day. Any bulkhead. Great flight today in 23J. Slept easily for half the flight. Business class would have been a waste of money. But charging $90 for bulkhead from your most loyal members is taking the piss.
 
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Give me bulkhead any day. Any bulkhead. Great flight today in 23J. Slept easily for half the flight. Business class would have been a waste of money. But charging $90 for bulkhead from your most loyal members is taking the piss.


Yet obviously you paid it so who is the fool now?
 
Re: QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D & Dom. Exit

That's the one.

One of the frustrating aspects of bulkhead seats is that they are not all created equal, even on the same plane. My suspicion is that QF's are amongst the smallest in the industry, and TG's towards the other end of the scale. But I doubt any pax has ever measured them.

I particularly avoid central bulkheads because there's no way you can win there - if they have adequate space then other pax will use it as a thoroughfare. And the only way they can't do that is if you have no space !

BTW, I hope that was an internal Thailand flight to/from the beach. Otherwise .. thongs indeed in the opposite exit row ! ;)

It wasn't an internal flight it was BNE/BKK. :shock:

The first row of economy in the 772 on the right hand side looked quite roomy on the right and they had someone in that aisle seat that required wheelchair assistance plus it had the bassinet attached to the bulkhead so one danger about pre-selecting those seats is that you could be bumped for pax with infants or pax who needed legroom but weren't exit row candidates.

Another issue when choosing seats is the legroom underneath the seat in front can vary greatly depending on the location or orientation of the comms box for the IFE.
 
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I particularly avoid central bulkheads because there's no way you can win there - if they have adequate space then other pax will use it as a thoroughfare. And the only way they can't do that is if you have no space !

Amen to this, central bulkheads are terrible on some flights. Paid extra on an Air China flight PEK-> SYD last year. Other pax wore the carpet out and were climbing over my legs all night. zero chance of sleep and the fixed armrest/tray tables make for an uncomfortable flight.
 
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I will always default to a bulkhead row on any flight even with the reduced legroom as I can't abide someone reclining their seat on a flight of less duration than 5 hours (and IMO there should be a special place in the after life for such people).

I also have significant issue with people who consider the gap between the bulkhead and the seats as a legitimate cross aisle link. It's not.

Not trying ignite debate on the well worn arguments of the right to recline just my personal opinion that in the modern world of ever diminishing seat pitch in Y that everyone should be more considerate of each other but some are not and the bulkhead allows me to self manage my issues.
 
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Yet obviously you paid it so who is the fool now?
Not quite. Flights booked last July. Seats allocated when complimentary to do so for Platinum.

Qantas is going to lose my business for international travel. That's not a good thing.
 
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Not quite. Flights booked last July. Seats allocated when complimentary to do so for Platinum.

Qantas is going to lose my business for international travel. That's not a good thing.

They have lost most of my business and I may suggest there will be others too John however I don't think that QF really care nor worry plenty more customers out there.
 
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They have lost most of my business and I may suggest there will be others too John however I don't think that QF really care nor worry plenty more customers out there.
Yes Jetstar will carry the flag for Qantas....
 
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Qantas are getting more of my business. On board service has been great lately. Im very happy
 
Re: QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D, Int. bullhead & Dom. Exit

I will always default to a bulkhead row on any flight even with the reduced legroom as I can't abide someone reclining their seat on a flight of less duration than 5 hours (and IMO there should be a special place in the after life for such people).

The world is never going to agree on the recline issue. But there are reasons for reclining on short flights. With QFi being SYD-centric I've often had a short connection out of SYD on an early morning flight full of suits, after a 10+ hour red eye from the other side of the world that got in at 6am. So if someone reclines and then sleeps you can assume they need the rest. Having said that I usually try to sleep bolt upright on such flights rather than inconvenience the person behind me, although I feel like death warmed up and they are almost certainly in a better physical state to handle a little inconvenience (and if not they are welcome to recline too).
 
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So if someone reclines and then sleeps you can assume they need the rest.

Too often people assume the sole reason someone else does something is to be malicious. Like reclining on a short flight. Instead of thinking the passenger might be on a connection, they'll automatically assume they're doing it just to be difficult. Does it come from people reflecting their own behaviour on to others?
 
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Re: QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D, Int. bullhead & Dom. Exit

Too often people assume the sole reason someone else does something is to be malicious. Like reclining on a short flight. Instead of thinking the passenger might be on a connection, they'll automatically assume they're doing it just to be difficult. Does it come from people reflecting their own behaviour on to others?

This is often true, but in this particular case I don't think there was an assumption that it was malicious, just selfish.

I believe most of the time when people recline there is no malice in it, just selfishness: either no thought for the person behind at all, or discounting the increase in that person's discomfort for a small decrease in one's own.

mrpooky.
 
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This is often true, but in this particular case I don't think there was an assumption that it was malicious, just selfish.

I believe most of the time when people recline there is no malice in it, just selfishness: either no thought for the person behind at all, or discounting the increase in that person's discomfort for a small decrease in one's own.

mrpooky.

Using a seat for its intended purpose is selfish? That's a new one....
 
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Qantas are getting more of my business. On board service has been great lately. Im very happy

I have a slight tendency to agree. Not just a blip I hope!
 
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Using a seat for its intended purpose is selfish? That's a new one....

Not a new one, no. It's been argued on here many times. :)

Edit: And thinking a bit more about your response leads me to ask: do you really think the purpose of the seat is to recline!?

I can think of many intended purposes for a seat, and reclining isn't one of them. Holding the passengers securely and safely when seated would probably be the intended purpose, if there is such a thing. Other less important purposes might include making the passenger comfortable, but if reclining makes the passenger behind uncomfortable, then that should be taken into consideration. Not to do so is by definition selfish (Selfish: lacking consideration for other people; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.)


mrpooky.
 
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Re: QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D, Int. bullhead & Dom. Exit

Any time reclining gets brought up in a thread it ends in tears. Please stick to the topic at hand.
 
Re: QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D & Dom. Exit

Hi guys

I've selected row 23 on an A330 service to Asia. I'm a WP and I haven't paid / wasn't presented with a requirement to pay the $90 when I selected it. (Last week)
It says "extra leg room seat" in the seat selection on manage my booking.

Will I be stung at the Airport for said seat charge or are these seats free to WP?

For reference: I won't pay the $90 (don't think bulkheads are worth it). I guess if I'll be charged at the airport I should chose a different seat now.

Thanks
muppet
 
Re: QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D & Dom. Exit

Hi guys

I've selected row 23 on an A330 service to Asia. I'm a WP and I haven't paid / wasn't presented with a requirement to pay the $90 when I selected it. (Last week)
It says "extra leg room seat" in the seat selection on manage my booking.

Will I be stung at the Airport for said seat charge or are these seats free to WP?

For reference: I won't pay the $90 (don't think bulkheads are worth it). I guess if I'll be charged at the airport I should chose a different seat now.

Thanks
muppet

I haven't heard of them extracting payment at check in time. Although depending on your height, you might thinking them as negative leg room seats...
 
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