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Learnt today that Learner Drivers no longer have a driving test or need to learn from a registered trainer to get their P licence. Simply have a log book of 75 hours signed off eg by licensed parent, have L for 12 months and you are good for a P.
That must be different from here - the L driver has to have the driving experience (can be parent supervising) but then must be assessed against competencies by a licensed competency tester (who is basically a driving instructor). Think the usual is something like 6 or 7 sessions to have all the competencies assessed.

Or, they may choose to do a driving test - no lessons required - if ready they can just book, turn up and take the test.
 
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That's just ... I mean ... What are they thinking? ... Stupid ...

Words fail me.

:evil::evil::evil:

The only thing I can think of is budget cuts.

But reading the conditions now I think maybe the mum (source) of current L drivers may have got it wrong?
 
There was never a requirement for a registered trainer when I got my licence. It certainly helped as my driving instructor gave me a great tip[SUP]*[/SUP] about a certain road in Cairns that I'm certain allowed me to pass my test. Are there even such things as registered driver trainers?


* Basically a main road with all small side streets crossing but no signs or other controls. Meaning cars on the main road were required to give way to the right. Despite cars normally just flying along that main road. Fortunately there was a car on the right and I stopped on the main road to give way.
 
Learnt today that Learner Drivers no longer have a driving test or need to learn from a registered trainer to get their P licence. Simply have a log book of 75 hours signed off eg by licensed parent, have L for 12 months and you are good for a P.
Don't think that is right - learning with a parent still requires an on road test (unless they are CBT? license)
 
Test is still required. Log book is extra. Never been a need for registered instructor AFAIK.
 
Test is still required. Log book is extra. Never been a need for registered instructor AFAIK.

Registered instructor not necessary but lessons with instructor is worth triple hours (up to 30 hrs) accelerating hours accumulation.

Additionally a 1 day "safer driving course" is worth 20 hours.

Total hours 120 (NSW)
 
Thank for explaining about "weeties packet drivers" that I see in my travel around Australia. I had always wondered how some useless drivers could have passed a test. No test really explains a lot.
 
Test is still required. Log book is extra. Never been a need for registered instructor AFAIK.

Yes. This is correct. I shall let the mum know today she is up for some grief. The instructor has never needed to be registered but if that was the only way to get a P, then they needed to be. But as there is still a test required it's a moot point. The log book still needs to get done.

Traffic roadworks in Adelaide are currently horrendous right near the city. In order to save monorail people 3 minutes into the city we are building tunnels. The roadworks will last 18 months. They have stopped many normal turn rights into the city. So you are forced to completely detour. For those who don't need to detour then the delay is around 5 minutes minimum all day. Every day. So for that savings of 3 minutes peak times only, everyone is being delayed a minimum of 5 minutes - day and night. Do the maths. Not even those saving the 3 minutes want this thing built. They say they need a car park at the outer end of the monorail as the current car park is not big enough. Costing a motza. Crunch point though is that they are digging up our parklands for the tunnel and they need to move the final bus stop further away from the CBD than the current one. Meaning people might have to walk further and hey - there goes that 3 minutes! Other than the Govt, no one has any idea why it's being built. We are broke.
 
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Adelaide needs significant improvements to the road infrastructure, to handle the useless drivers. The O-bahn extension is probably a good start. I doubt it saves only 3 minutes in peak hour. that intersection at the national wine centre is extremely busy. Getting the bus lane out of that intersection can only benefit car drivers. as for those road works being a disruption, I turn right before they start either at Melbourne St or at the Archery Club, then end up going past the Zoo. Much nicer way into the city. Stay on Frome for the south end otherwise over to Kintore Ave for Rundle Mall.

Still it'd be more effective if they fixed the fricken traffic light synchronisation. Being synchronised so that you get every red light is not the idea. :evil:
 
The Government has said it is a 3 minute save - not my guess.
 
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Still it'd be more effective if they fixed the fricken traffic light synchronisation. Being synchronised so that you get every red light is not the idea. :evil:

The two main, busiest streets through Hobart have been wonderfully synchronised through 10 or more sets of traffic lights each for at least 10 years now. Works well except for the heaviest traffic.

And before anyone jokes about how heavy the traffic is in Hobart, you should know about what happened when the public bus company over-hauled their schedules over last Christmas break. After school hols ended, there was a massive step-up in traffic into and through the CBD. Basically they stuffed up the bus routes (changed or cancelled) and frequency such that a huge number of people who previously used public transport to get to work or to take their kids to school were now using their own cars. The difference was (and still is) huge; traffic jams where there was none before; peak hour back-ups double what they used to be ...

Big public outcry, pollies scramble for answers, an inquiry held ...

And the solution from said enquiry? "Parking in the Hobart CBD is too cheap. Raise parking prices to discourage driving into, and parking in the city." :rolleyes: Meanwhile the bus lot have quietly been re-jigging their time-tables again ...
 
Great way to start my "I promise I'm not working on this holiday trip".... sitting in the lounge working right now! At least once this core migration is done today then I will switch off... I promise! Mrs Flashback may kill me if not!

Nearly at the end of the working week and pleased to say I've not even looked at my e-mail once :mrgreen:
 
The Government has said it is a 3 minute save - not my guess.

They've quoted an average, I'm talking about peak hour. Having sat at that wine centre intersection waiting to turn right for 3 or 4 sets of lights during peak hour, numerous times; I'll stick to my guess that the time saving during peak hour is much more than 3 minutes. Changing the right turn bus lane into a general turning lane, therefore giving 2 lanes turning right into 2 lanes should halve the delay for general car drivers. If the O-bahn buses are in a tunnel there should be no need for that lane. Of course Adelaide planners are so brilliant they'll probably leave it as a bus lane for no buses to use.

The two main, busiest streets through Hobart have been wonderfully synchronised through 10 or more sets of traffic lights each for at least 10 years now. Works well except for the heaviest traffic.

Fortitude Valley in Brisbane is another example. If you get the red light at the bottom of Ann St, when it turns green you set the cruise control on 50 and you'll get every green light to the Storey Bridge on ramp.

In Adelaide CBD on all main north south streets starting at one end on a green will see you get every red light 87% of the time if you stick to the (lower) speed limit of 50. I often wonder if they forgot to change the timing when the speed limit was lowered 16 years ago.
 
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