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I and about 6 million other Superannuants now own 50.4% of Ausgrid.

So YOU are now responsible for the 'hidden' State tax introduced at the behest of a certain well known Investment bank.

As State's cannot levy taxes, certain bank (a couple of decades back) went to most State Govts and told them how to get around the 'cannot levy a tax'...

Answer: regulate the rate of return guaranteed for any spending on 'capital investment or maintenance' and link the senior execs remuneration to the 'annual' dividend paid to the State Govt - so they won't spill the beans.

That is why the 'gold plating' of the poles, wires and other capital items occured Australia-wide which has resulted in Australian electricity retail prices going from amongst cheapest in OECD to now one of the highest DESPITE having the equal lowest cost of power generation (thanks La Trobe Valley smokestacks).

Similarly with the right to operate toll roads (also sold at a mulitple of earnings) - so bump up earnings and 'tax' on residents and businesses in the State, help 'consultants' pockets tens (and hundreds) of millions in fees, line up 'directorships' post-political career and repay donors' generosity thousand-fold.

Same investment bank gurus even boasted at a lunch one day (after 7th bottle of red) that secret to really 'crushing the grapes' with toll roads is to charge high enough tolls to put people off using them too much as a 5-8% reduction in 'published' capacity can see a 30-40% reduction in maintenance capex.

The wheel has indeed turned...

So unrealistic (noncompetitive prices for water [desal plants], electricity [gold-plating], gas [removal of domestic regulation], toll roads [user gouging]) State Govt introduced rorts make Australia less competitive (or Federal Govt approvals...gas landed in Japan and China at 1/6th current domestic price AND locked in at same nominal price for the next 26 years) and the jobs flow offshore.

Thus reducing paid employment, relative wages etc directly hitting amount workers can put into super....

As we roll into the next 'bonus' season.
 
That's one way to look at it.

Root cause? Everyone wants first class health care, education, welfare etc for free. Woe befall any government trying to raise transparent taxes to pay for these services.

Oh the investment bank you talk about had nothing to do with Ausgrid transaction which was an unsolicited bid
 
This the worst I have seen BKK airport security/immigration for a long time. Most passengers going through the new body scanners and then queues 50-60 deep on top of escalators before being allowed down slowly. Then queues 20-25 deep at passport control. Not fun.

Pays to have Premium lane access.
 
That's one way to look at it.

Root cause? Everyone wants first class health care, education, welfare etc for free. Woe befall any government trying to raise transparent taxes to pay for these services.

Oh the investment bank you talk about had nothing to do with Ausgrid transaction which was an unsolicited bid

You must have missed this then?

[h=3]Macquarie to advise on Ausgrid bid - The Australian[/h]Nocookies | The Australian...ausgrid-bid/.../0212f5f4f8be498b6f96770...


The Australian


Sep 26, 2016 - Macquarie will advise the joint IFM Investors and AustralianSuper bid for Ausgrid after the relationship was ... Macquarie (MQG) was the adviser to the Chinese State Grid bid for the NSW ... Hines Management Consultants.

The investment bank had everything to do with the guaranteed rate of return on ALL capital spending and maintenance. At a rate up to 6% above their cost of borrowing.

Guess who helped arrange some of the borrowings? Optimise the duration risk, advise on Treasury risk mgmt, etc etc.

And of the Investment banks - who did the State Govt get to run the ruler (in a consulting role of course) for them in addition to Treasury and Finance?

Advised the Chinese and now the AustSuper/IFM bid.

Arranged some financing etc etc.

Welcome to the real world that provides the public with the best politicians money can buy...
 
The transaction was 50%AustSuper/50%IFM. No borrowings. They were just advised by Macquarie Capital. You suggest that MC was running the entire show?. That's like saying UBS was the vendor

When you sell/buy a house you do have lawyers advising you?

Nothing unusual.

Guaranteed rate of return. Nope. Though it is a regulated asset so there is some certainty of at least income and therefore expenditure with of course some variability

In the end people want more roads, rails, buses, housing, schools, hospitals. Try telling everyone they have to pay for it. Shock horror. Only when people are happy to pay for their services will this whole industry stop.
 
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On a long walk in Melbourne today and spied this:
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To his credit MrP suggested we check it out.

The Travel Expo. It was free but you had to register first = give every detail possible about the travel companies contacting you later. But then when you got to the entrance no one checked if you'd registered. Dammit. Wait for the spam now.

All the usual doodads of a travel expo. Huge banks of pc's for making bookings on the spot and they were flat out. All organised via Flight Centre. As if.

Did pick up this brochure for us love_the_life and will mail it to you

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The Shopping Expo. Again free but rather disappointing.

The Cake Bake and Sweet show - admission of $34 pp. seriously? Then additional $ (up to $75) to attend some of the demonstrations. So many people walked up to the entrance not expecting to pay. And then walked away. Saw a few relevant bags but cannot imagine it doing well.
 
The transaction was 50%AustSuper/50%IFM. No borrowings. They were just advised by Macquarie Capital. You suggest that MC was running the entire show?. That's like saying UBS was the vendor

When you sell/buy a house you do have lawyers advising you?

Nothing unusual.

Guaranteed rate of return. Nope. Though it is a regulated asset so there is some certainty of at least income and therefore expenditure with of course some variability

In the end people want more roads, rails, buses, housing, schools, hospitals. Try telling everyone they have to pay for it. Shock horror. Only when people are happy to pay for their services will this whole industry stop.
Would you believe the RBA's analysis then?


There is a big difference between paying a 'fair price' vs an inflated price where multiple 'margins' are added onto something before the consumer pays the bill.

There is debt involved in the transaction btw - multiples of the equity being put into it by IFM and AustSuper. The interest on the debt is tax deductible. A SPV will likely be created (possibly with an offshore location perhaps) or a string of SPVs will likely be created. The "consultants" most likely will be using the same structure as proposed for their 1st bid advised on (the Chinese one for AusGrid).

You need to do some homework on the regulated rate of return that had been set as high as 12% pa on all capital spending each and every year. Public outcry on revelation that the power companies provided false, misleading and deceptive information to the regulator AND various parliaments HOWEVER not one executive got punished nor reprimanded. Funny that.

From the RBA www.rba.gov.au/information/foi/disclosure.../101115.pdf
Sets out the explosion in capex (with the guaranteed rate of return) that was subsequently shown not to be necessary.

"Since 2005, the transmission networks in the NEM states have been regulated by the Australian Energy Regulator (AER)". (which sets the guaranteed rate of return on capex). The GRR is for the life of the assets btw.

The AER’s decision is based on the amount of revenue that would reasonably be required to recover a set of costs, which are outlined in the National Electricity Rules. These costs are:
• Operational and maintenance expenditure, such as wages and rents
A return on capital (which is affected by capital expenditure)
• Asset depreciation costs
• Tax liabilities
Though it varies by network, the available evidence is that the return on capital is typically the largest component for both transmission and distribution networks.


So to allow an GRR at a multiple of the borrowing cost for capex that is not required = tax on residents and businesses in the State. Akin to the abused argument that if a glazier pays people to go breaking shop windows it creates wealth not destroys it. Or the Japanese social experiment to keep the zombie construction companies and banks afloat by concreting river and stream banks as well as building 6 lane bridges to island communities of a few hundred villagers.

It only works for those with the snouts-in-the-trough and ruins the wider economy.

The evidence they presented stated that Australia's total annual power demand had been growing incessantly at between 3-5%pa since 2000. The reality was it had been falling for several years.

[h=2]The end of the gold-plated electricity network[/h] by Tony Wood

Published by The Australian Financial Review, Thursday 9 January 2014
Between 2006 and 2013, the average Australian household power bill increased by more than 85 per cent: from $890 to $1660 a year, with network costs being the biggest contributor. Indeed, the businesses have been accused of “gold plating” their networks to get higher profits.
 
Probably been posted before.

One of the kids showed me this tonight - beautiful!

[video=youtube;kbJcQYVtZMo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbJcQYVtZMo[/video]
 
Meanwhile think of us free folk in the South.

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A lot is happening around the World today

NZ..........Labour Day
Israel......Shemini Atzeret
Thailand..Chulalongkorn Holiday
 
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